Patience VAY LAMBERT REDFORD

Born 25 Oct 1786, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Died 18 Apr 1865, Wellsville, Cache, Utah, USA

Manchester Cathedral

Manchester Cathedral (Church of Saint Mary), Church of England, Manchester, Lancashire, England

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Patience VAY LAMBERT REDFORD

written by Margaret Pack Truit*
a great, great grandaughter

NOTE: With much appreciation to Margaret for her efforts in 1946*, I must acknowledge that her 'history' contains several documentable errors and questionable suppositions. I have inserted [?] where I believe her information is questionable and have added a superscript number where I have more accurate information. Please see the footnotes at the end of the document.

~~Venita (another great, great-granddaughter), October 2003


Patience Vay was born somewhere1 in Yorkshire England on 13 Oct 1786 daughter of John and Mary Vay.2 She had a light complexion, short stature, was small boned and dainty, especially as a girl. Her temper was quick, her heart kind, and she was generous.

Her natural ability toward nursing kept her busy, helped out on her income and did much to mold her character. She was married in the Colgate Church3 in Manchester, [Lancashire], England, just one week before her 25th birthday, thus avoiding the title of spinster.4 This was on the 6th of October, 1811. Richard Lambert was a lucky man. His parents were John and Elizabeth Lambert. This John Lambert had two brothers, Richard and Henry, of York, England.5

Here their first two children, both girls, were born: Elizabeth on 8 Sep 1812 and Hannah, 25 Jun 1814. Then the family moved from Manchester to Gargrave, where John was born, 30 Jan 1820, followed by Richard, born 22 Nov 1822. Joseph was Patience's last child, born 22 Apr 1826.6

It was eight years later that Patience was widowed on Christmas day 1833.7 Her husband was taken from her by "dropsy," now known as Bright's Disease, which is curable through modern scientific knowledge and treatment.

The Mormon Elders, [William] Clayton, [Joseph] Fielding, John Moon8 and David Wilding, came to Patience's family home In Gargrave7, England soon after they began their mission in this place on 19 Oct 1838. They were always welcome to share the humble home of this generous widowed mother and her brood.

It seems the Lambert family wanted to be thoroughly convinced that this religion was all it claimed to be, and just what they wanted for their own. Hannah's death on 30 Jun 1839 (sic) [correct date: 30 Jun 1829] was definitely a deciding factor for as the Elders explained it, she was not lost to them. They could do her work and all be joined together in a later life if they remained faithful and were worthy. So in October, 18398a, they were baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of L. D. Saints.

When the first9 shipload of Mormon saints sailed from England on the Britannia on 6 Jun 1840, Patience and her four children were among her passengers. After landing at New York, they took a boat up the Hudson river to Albany. From there they traveled via the Erie Canal and Great Lakes to Chicago. Hence they went directly to Nauvoo, where they gloried in the joy of working for the Lord.

During the six years of their stay in Nauvoo, Ill., Patience had her family with her and lived in happiness with work and faith. Elizabeth married a fellow by the name of [Timothy Peter] Terry and settled down there. Richard, Jr. married Jane Thorber and moved away. John, while on a mission in Iowa, met and later married Adelia Groesbeck10, 4 Feb 1846, at Sugar Creek. They came immediately to Nauvoo where they were sealed in the Temple 6 Feb 1846. They completed plans and preparations for leaving Nauvoo with the Saints.11 When they were forced to leave their homes and cross the river to lay on the cold ground, Joseph was among the few who suffered from it. His illness was a fever from which he never fully recovered.

Patience and Joseph lived and moved with John and Adelia into St. Joseph, Mo., [? Her son Richard and daughter Elizabeth were still in the Nauvoo area] where she became a grandmother [through John. Elizabeth and Richard had already presented her with grandchildren]. Persecution [?] by Missourian mobs drove this small family from one place to another. Patience's second grandchild through John was born in Kansas City, Mo. Finally he [John] had enough equipment and provisions gathered for the westward treck to Salt Lake valley. Early in the summer of 1850 they joined Lorenzo Young's12 company at Council Bluffs, Iowa. His company was in connection with Thomas Johnson's and Ben Hawkin's companies. They all crossed the plains together to Utah. Arriving on the 11 and 12 of September, 1850.

Here Patience lived with her two sons, John's wife, Adelia, and their children for about eight years.13 They were in the vicinity of 7 south and 4 east, Salt Lake City. Patience took very good care of the children. They all loved her. John Carlos Lambert, who was then about 3 years of age, has told of remembering her efforts towards keeping their childish hands out of the preserve jars.

It was the morning of the 25 of July 1855 that death again visited her little home. Her beloved son, Joseph, went out on the East Bench near the present site of the State Prison14 in search of the oxen and other stock that had strayed. He had searched for three days and had become despondent of their loss.[?] He was found shot to death. It is not known whether he was killed or took his own life.

Patience missed him terribly and felt she was imposing on John and Adelia by staying on in their home.[? see footnote 11] It was not long afterward (about the time John married 2nd wife [Eline Hansine Larsen], 6 Sep 1855) that she became attracted to an English convert's children.15 He was Robert Patesfield Redford. They met in church and became acquainted through various other community activities. They decided to pool their money and other resources, got married16 and joined a company of Saints to pioneer and help settle Cache Valley. They stopped off at Wellesville, Utah, instead, as they liked the location. They built and lived in a log cabin with a sod roof. It had a willow and sack door and a dirt floor. Not being accustomed to American ways [?], she had many things to learn in her last years. The neighborhood women took turns helping her clean her home and making quilts. She was a small woman who looked fragile, but was nevertheless hale, hearty, active and helpful all her days. Redford's children loved her and one, Joseph, later erected an attractive marker over her resting place in Wellsville cemetery, for death claimed this honorable Pioneer at the age of 79 years on 29 Jan 186517.

On the Headstone:
Center: Robert P. Redford, June 20, 1814 - July 1, 1865
Left: His wife, Patience Lambert, June 14, 1814 - Apr 18, 186517
Right: His wife, Lettice Eckersall, Feb 22, 1814 - Mar 1, 1900

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*Data gathered from many sources and compiled 1 Dec. 1946 by Margaret Pack Truitt. Patience was my great great grandmother, my father's [Daniel Lambert Pack] mother's [Sarah Amelia Lambert] paternal grandmother.

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Footnotes:

1. Patience Vay was born 25 Oct 1786 and Christened 28 Oct 1787 at Crathorne, Yorkshire, England. Her parents were Joseph Vay and Hanah Siggeswick. Her birthdate is listed as 25 Oct 1786 in the records for the (original) Nauvoo Temple, 2 Feb 1846.
(Source: Bishop's Transcripts 1731 - 1812, Church of England, Crathorne Parish, Crathorne, Yorshire, England. Family History Library Film # 919055.)

2. See note no. 1, above.

3. Richard Lambert and Patience Vay were married 6 Oct 1811 in Manchester Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England.
(Source: Parish Registers, Church of England, Cathedral Church Marriage records 1807 - 1812, Manchester, Lancashire, England. Family History Library film #438189)

4. "Spinster" was a term denoting any unmarried woman of marriageable age, not necessarily an unmarried women over the age of 25 years. It could also denote "someone who spins."

5. Richard Lambert's father, John Lambert, was Christened 15 Nov 1747 at Gisburn, Yorkshire, England. His two brothers were William, Christened 27 Jan 1750, Gisburn; and Joseph, Christened 29 Apr 1753, Gisburn. They were all born at Horton, Gisburn, Yorkshire, to Joseph and Mary Wilkinson Lambert.
(Source: Parish Register, Gisburn parish, Church of England, Gisburn, Yorkshire, England. Family History Library film #599999.)

6. Richard and Patience's children were:

  • Elizabeth, born 8 Sep 1813, Gargrave, Yorkshire, England
  • Hannah, born 25 Jan 1817, Gargrave , Yorkshire, England
  • John, born 31 Jan 1820, Gargrave, Yorkshire, England
  • Richard, born 17 Nov 1822, Gargrave, Yorkshire, England
  • Joseph, born 22 Apr 1826, Marsden Heights, Briercliffe, Lancashire, England
(Source: Birth and burial records, Haggate Baptist Church, Haggate, Lancashsire, England. Family History Library microfiche # 6340861, 6359229, 6359230, 6359231.)

7. The family moved to Marsden Heights, Briercliffe, Lancashire sometime between 1823 and 1825. Richard Lambert died there 22 Dec 1833 and was buried 25 Dec 1833 in the Haggage Baptist churchyard, Haggate, Lancashire. (Ibid, Haggate.)

8. In his history, John Lambert names this missionary as Francis Moon.

8a. John's baptism date is recorded as 14 Oct 1837.

9. The four surviving children (Elizabeth, John, Richard and Joseph) emigrated 8 September 1840 with Theodore Turley on the North America. Patience emigrated 21 Apr 1841 with Brigham Young and other apostles on the Rochester.
(Source: Mormon Immigration Index, CD, published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, © 2000 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc.)

10. (See Adelia's account in her history.) John was endowed at the Nauvoo Temple 2 Feb 1846, the same time as his mother, Patience. Adelia was baptised 5 Feb 1846 in Nauvoo, married John 6 Feb 1846, and was endowed 7 Feb 1846 at Nauvoo. John and Adelia were sealed 30 Jun 1853 in the Endowment House in Salt Lake City.

11. See John's and Adelia's accounts in their histories.

12. In his history, John says they travelled with the Thomas Johnson company.

13. The 1850 US Census for Salt Lake City, Utah, shows that John had a home with Adelia and his children, and Patience had a separate home, on the same block, with her son Joseph.

14. Margaret is referring to the first Utah State Prison which was located on thirteenth east and twenty-first south, the current (2003) location of Sugar House Park.

15. Robert P. Redford emigrated at the age of 30 in 1854. (Ibid: Mormom Immigration Index) The 1860 US Census for Cache County, Utah, shows Robert Redford (age 36) as head of the household in Wellsville and Patience (age 74) as his wife. It is said that his older sons emigrated in about 1864. The two youngest children emigrated with their mother, Lettice, in 1868, after both Robert and Patience had died. (Ibid: Mormom Immigration Index)

16. Robert Redford and Patience Nay [sic] were married in the Office of the President, Salt Lake City, 29 Nov 1856.

17. One can only speculate about reasons why Patience's birthdate on the marker is so far off the actual date. Her deathdate is accurate.


More about Patience Vay Lambert Redford:

Patience Lambert's Emigration to Utah


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