2007 November 19th Board Meeting Minutes draft
2. Agenda moved and approved
3. October minutes approved.
4. Report on Creekside Commons meeting with the Planning Commission. The Commision approved the project; approved zoning change to R-5; were full of praise for the project. Sound Density will appeal to the City Council. The project next goes to zoning.
5. Sara or Ryan will respond to Duane Evans’ grievance in a timely fashion.
6. Copies of the bylaws were distributed to the board. Members are to review, redline and be prepared to discuss at the next meeting.
7. Ryan reported on the bus transfer station planned for 46th street. There is a meeting on November 28th at Field Community School from 6-8 P.M. to address the demolition of the 46th street bridge.
8. The NRP board has approved the Tangletown Phase II plan. It has to go through two more boards, but it is anticipated that funds will be available for Tangletown in January.
9. Crime update:
There was a shooting recently at 49th and Nicollet.
We should meet with Washburn’s administration soon.
10. Arrangements for the holiday gathering were discussed.
11. Meeting adjourned at 8:15 P.M.
Board members present: Chris Burns, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, and Mary Jane Mitchell. Absent: Sarah Cortright, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson and Joe Thiegs.
Prepared by Mary Davidson
2007 October 15th Board Meeting Minutes
Tangletown
Neighborhood Association
Regular
Meeting, Monday, October 15, 2007
Draft
Minutes
Fuller Park
1. Call to Order, 7:00 PM.
2. Agenda moved and approved.
3. September minutes, posted on website, moved and
approved.
4. NRP Phase II. Peg Mountin, our NRP Specialist,
Lynell Voigt, NRP committee member, and Mary Davidson,
Board Liason to NRP Committee, discussed the NRP plan
with the Board. (Tom Balcom, NRP committee chair was
not able to attend the meeting.). The Board approved
the plan with some language changes to Parks and Public
Places Objective 4 to respond to comments from Brette
Hjelle of Public Works.
Peg told us that the amount of money available to NRP
plans keeps changing, so it is good that we have not
already committed to specific projects.
Our plan will go to the policy board on November 19,
2007.
The following handouts were presented:
NRP Phase II Neighborhood Action Plan Draft
Action Plan Comments
Highlights of the Phase II plan from Tom Balcom, NRP
committee chair
5. The Creekside Commons meeting with the Planning
Commission is tentatively scheduled for November. Sarah
plans to attend in case there are questions about board
procedures. Harry Kaiser asked if we intend to respond
to the grievance. The board told Harry that none of us
had received it. Efforts will be made to get us the
grievance so that we can respond.
The issue of variances came up again. Sarah advised
that the Planning Commission doesn’t need input from us
in this regard.
Harry asked what the board will do should the present
plan be voted down and a new proposal be made. Sarah
replied that the board will attempt to be clearer in
any subsequent response.
6. Meredith Johnson, chair of the Home Tour, reported
that it was, as always, a success, despite misprinted
guides and high temperatures. The variety of homes on
the tour was a special plus. At the last moment enough
volunteers showed up to staff the homes on the tour.
7. Jerry is taking the final steps to permit him to be
treasurer. Meredith delivered the proceeds from the
Home Tour to him at the meeting. He will be able to
have a report, complete with numbers, next meeting.
8. Sarah asked the board to review our existing Bylaws
before our next meeting and highlight areas that need
change. The Creekside Commons controversy has shown
that the existing bylaws do not provide clear or
sufficient guidance to the board. We will also be
looking at bylaws from other neighborhoods to help us
improve ours.
9. Chris Burns volunteered to host a holiday party for
the board.
10. The meeting was adjourned at 8:00 PM (for a
change!).
Board members present: Chris Burns, Sarah Cortright,
Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden,
Meredith Johnson, Mary Jane Mitchell, Joe Thiegs.
No one was absent.
Prepared by Mary Davidson.
2007 September 17th Board Meeting Minutes
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, September 17, 2007
Draft minutes
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda. Moved and approved
3. Approval of Minutes. Posted on the website. Moved and approved.
4. Safety update from Chelsea Adams, Crime Prevention Specialist
Property crimes are most prevalent recently, particularly theft from vehicles. Remember to lock cars and hide valuables left in cars when unattended. There have been some reports of garage door openers stolen from cars and then robberies from those garages. Suspects are typically male, on bikes, and with backpacks. Theft of catalytic converters has been noticed, predominantly on trucks, vans, and SUVs –Toyotas in particular.
The following handouts were provided: Preventing Bicycle Theft; Preventing Auto Theft; Preventing Residential Burglary; Information regarding Community Impact Statement; Upcoming Block Leader Training; Upcoming Property Manager workshop; Guard Your Identity; 911 and 311 info; 5th Precinct Resources Phone List; and Neighborhood Policing Plan for Tangletown.
Neighborhood Policing is focused on concerns over smokers from Washburn High School on private property and on theft in general.
5. Home tour assignments
We’re still looking for 5 more volunteers for the Home Tour. Volunteer time slots are 2 hours, either 1-3 or 3-5 and include admission ticket to the home Tour. Tickets will again be $10 this year, and tickets will be printed into the brochure for the event. Flowers will be delivered to all host homes on Saturday.
6. Neighborhood Revitalization Plan Update
We’re at the mid-term of Phase 2 in the NRP plan. The plan proposal is available for review on the Tangletown website as well as at the Washburn Library and Fuller Park.
The following handouts were provided: Review of Phase 2 process, Phase 2 Budget, NRP Link Newsletter.
Next TNA Board meeting (October 17) will have a vote from neighborhood residents to approve the Phase 2 plan, and then a vote from the TNA Board to approve Phase 2.
Once Phase 2 has been approved residents will be able to begin applying for housing-based loans, to be processed in early 2008. A point was made to consider funds toward the rebuilding of the Lyndale parkway bridge to include a Tangletown crest on the bridge. NRP funds cannot be used toward projects of beautification specifically. The Board owns the monies that are repaid through the home loans by residents.
Phase 2 funding has been uncertain. As a result, we are encouraged to spend 50% of monies in year 1. Neighborhood must encourage their city councilmember to release all monies allocated to Phase 2.
7. Special meeting format/assignments/agenda
Handout of draft agenda. We will attempt to alternate Q&A between people, for the project, against the project, and undecided or neutral on the project.
8. Garage sale / response to concerns around missing StarTribune ad
We will offer no refunds for this year’s garage sales as it is a revenue generator for the neighborhood; despite the shortage of advertising this year. Next year we must have a board member tied to this event.
9. Letter to city regarding TNA board’s stance on the proposed Creekside Commons development
Ryan and Jerry have written a draft and submitted it to Sarah for review. Joe Thiegs will also review the letter before it is sent to the full board for review. The letter will be sent to the city Planning Commission for their vote at the end of October.
10. Treasurer Update
Jerry just received the treasurer materials tonight and will begin sorting through the documents soon. Reimbursements for 4th of July expenses will be done soon, and there are anticipated expenses for the upcoming Home Tour.
11. Opportunity for Special Communications
Our printer has offered 11x17 2-fold print job for free due to printing problems with the last newsletter.
12. New Matters
Laura Silver should be moved off the 4th of July email list as she will not be chairing that event in the future. The board should begin thinking about finding a replacement.
13. Adjournment
Attendance: Sarah Cortright, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Mary Jane Mitchell
Not present: Joe Thiegs, Mary Davidson, Chris Burns
2007-2008 Board
Sarah Cortright, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden, Joe Thiegs, Mary Davidson, Meredith Johnson, Mary Jane Mitchell, Chris Burns
2007 August 21st Board Meeting Minutes
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, August 20, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1. Call to Order.
2. Approval of Agenda. Moved and approved with #7 deferred.
3. Approval of Minutes. Moved and approved.
4. Creekside Commons housing development proposal: vote and discussion of follow-up letter to the planning commission.
Sarah Cortright outlined the discussions and input that have happened since April on the Creekside Commons proposal: presentations, questions, response, web postings, emails received. The Board at the last meeting felt it appropriate to have those concerned with the proposal present with little questions and answers given the previous meetings. Board members have received numerous emails and many discussions haven taken place in person and by phone. Discussions have also taken place between the developers and the neighbors close to the project location. Input has also been received from the offices of elected officials, city staff, and the various documents prepared by the project proposers as well as the Minneapolis Residents for Smart Density.
Joe Thiegs moved that the Board draft and send a letter to the City and Planning Commission to the effect that the position of the Board as a whole regarding the Creekside Commons project proposed by Mayflower Church and Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation is most closely reflected by the statement that the Board supports the project generally but has some concerns that the proposed capacity of 30 units is too large. Further, that the letter may include further specificity regarding the positions of Board Directors. Seconded by Mary Davidson. Motion passed by 4 votes to 3.
Joe Thiegs then moved that the Board send a letter to the City and Planning Commission reflecting that the Board does not oppose the requested zoning, conditional use permit, or variances, with the exception of the requested parking variance, which the Board opposes. Seconded by Mary Davidson. Passed unamimously.
Jerry Doyle and Ryan Fisher will draft the letter on behalf of the Board.
5. Request for “Special Meeting” by Minneapolis Residents for Smart Density. Sarah Cortright explained that the Minneapolis Residents for Smart Density has asked for a Special Meeting of the Tangletown Neighborhood Association. Harry Kaiser of Minneapolis Residents for Smart Density explained that the meeting would be in preparation for the City Planning Commission meeting, and should be attended only by members of the Tangletown Neighborhood Association, as defined in the TNA bylaws. Harry explained that a large number of people would attend a well-publicized meeting. Lee Blons of Plymouth Neighborhood Association asked if the Special Meeting would be informational only. Mary Davidson read from the Bylaws the provisions relating to Special Meetings. Sarah Cortright moved that a Special Meeting be held in response to the request. The motion was seconded by Jerry Doyle. The motion passed unanimously. A member of the audience asked that the notice for the meeting clearly state who can attend and/or participate in the Special Meeting.
6. NRP Update. Tom Balcom gave an update of the work of the Steering Committee of the Phase 2 of NRP. The Phase 2 Action Plan was circulated to the Board. Mary Davidson has represented the Board on the Steering Committee.
The Steering Committee has worked very closely with the NRP city staff throughout the development of this Action Plan. Tom asked that the Board authorize the circulation of the Action Plan for comment by neighbors, and for later approval by the Board for submission to the city. The Board approved posting the Action Plan on the Tangletown web site. [The draft Phase 2 plan is now posted at http://www.tangletown.org]
The Police Liason officer asked whether there has been any feedback on the Neighborhood Policing Plan.
7. Treasurer’s report [deferred]. Accounts are being transferred over to Jerry Doyle, the new Treasurer.
8. Upcoming events. Newsletter, Home Tour. Newsletter will be sent out in the next few weeks, featuring the Home Tour. The Home Tour will be Sunday, September 23rd from 1 to 5pm. Volunteers are welcome to help with staffing the tour. We need about 20 volunteers in total. Volunteers get a free ticket for the Home Tour.
Harry Kaiser asked about the question raised last month re Board membership. Sarah Cortright replied that the Board wished to wait to next May to add members to the Board.
Attendance: Chris Burns, Sarah Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Joe Thiegs.
Not present: Ryan Fisher, Mary Jane Mitchell.
2007-2008 Board
Chris Burns, Sarah Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Joe Thiegs, Mary Jane Mitchell.
Approved Sept 17th.
2007 July 16th Board Meeting Minutes
Regular Meeting, Monday, July 16, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda. Moved and approved
3. Approval of Minutes. Posted on the website. Moved and approved.
4. Election of 2007-2008 Officers
President: Sarah Cortright
Vice President: Ryan Fisher
Secretary: Mary Davidson
Treasurer: Jerry Doyle
5. Chelsea Adams, CPS 5th Precinct, Sec. 3
Community liason to MPD. Providing introduction and her contact info. Contact handout has information on signing up for optional safety mailing list for sector 3.
Clarification of city phone numbers: 911 for any emergency response request. 311 is city directory, non-emergency.
Emphasized the need to convey the urgency of your call to 911. The more information that can be provided in the call, the better.
MPD Can provide free security assessment of your home. Hiding spots in landscaping, security of windows and doors.
Graffiti should be reported to 311
6. Mayflower Housing Project – Harry Kaiser
Email board@tangletown.org with questions following the meeting/presentation.
Harry noted as attended: Scott Benson, Frank Hornstein, Gayle Dorfmann, Carol ?? (from RT Rybak office)
“Tangletown Residents for Smart Density”
-see full presentation at Tangletown website-
6.1. 35W update from Scott Benson
MNDOT is trying to get a permit to do overnight work on Crosstown/35W Project. MNDOT has proposed to do neighborhood meetings regarding noise from overnight work. City is pressing MNDOT to give an overall end date for the project. City has asked MNDOT about why they’re not working Saturdays as had been planned.
7. 4th of July Recap
We have $2231.15 in cash from the event. This total is a little more than last year. The final total revenue generated will be tallied once all expenses have been paid out.
Thanks to volunteers for all help. Got lots of good help from neighborhood volunteers this year.
Huge kudos to Laura Silver and all the work she’s done on the event!
Tips for future 4th of July events:
• Sell tickets at the high school ahead of time.
• Pre-count tickets a day ahead of time.
• Fewer raffle items this year over last
• Ran out of ice (only had 40 lbs, needed at least 100 lbs) – it was hot!
• Bought less water this year- we ran out.
• Bought same amount of chips as last year – had a few extra
• Bought 40 more hot dogs over last year – we had about 40 extra that sold for 2-for-1 at end of event.
Tom is looking for a plexiglass case for lego Watertower. Perhaps open it up to Leonardo’s Basement.
8. Upcoming Events – Newsletter, Home Tour
Submit ideas for upcoming TNA newsletter to Norman Foster by August 10.
September 23 will be the Home Tour. Doing good on getting homes committed for home tour, with a few people still deciding. Will be looking for volunteers to work during the home tour. 1-3 pm and 3-5 pm shifts; includes a free ticket to the event.
9. New Matters – Board Members or Members of Tangletown
Board has a member who had been nominated as a board member, but later decided not to participate. There are two people interested in joining the board. Proposal to allow one more person join (to replace the person who dropped out) the board is raised and passed. Interested individuals should plan to nominate themselves at the August meeting, for approval vote from the board.
NRP committee members have been encouraged to be in contact with city representatives to be sure that neighborhoods are getting 100% of their allotted NRP funds. There have been proposals to allocate funds in waves rather than all at once if even 100%.
Proposal to use some NRP funds to help residents pay for tree removal in cases where trees have been declared diseased by the city. NRP committee will look in to this.
We will be discussing TNA Board’s role in writing a letter to the city planning commission regarding proposed Mayflower development. We are reviewing our current by-laws to see what is allowed. Further discussion and decision is tabled until next meeting.
10. Adjournment
Attendance: Sarah Cortright, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden, Joe Thiegs, Mary Davidson, Meredith Johnson, Mary Jane Mitchell
Not present: -none-
2007-2008 Board
Sarah Cortright, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden, Joe Thiegs, Mary Davidson, Meredith Johnson, Mary Jane Mitchell, Chris Burns
Minutes approved August 21st.
2007 June Board 18th Minutes
Minutes
Draft
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, June 18, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1.
Call to Order by Sarah Cortright, chairing the
meeting as Vice President.
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Approval of Minutes from May 2007. Some amendments
will be made to clarify direct quotations and to
reflect some additional comments in opposition.
4. Citizen planning grant of $2,000 has been received.
5. July 4th
planning
has continued and the event will happen as usual, 10am
to 1pm.
6. Mayflower continuation of discussion from last
month.
[NOTE: In the following notes, the person named is
making the statements immediately following, usually
ending with a new paragraph. Direct quotations are not
used but the person’s comments are paraphrased as
accurately as possible given the rapid nature of the
discussion. Questions from the floor are indicated by Q
and answers by A, with the person answered noted for
clarity when possible. (It is not often we have the
honor of not just our city council member but the Mayor
at a meeting, and the Board thanks them for their
attendance). Not all questions were answered directly
so there is not always an A for every Q.]
DISCUSSION Lee Blons of Plymouth Neighborhood
Association started the presentation with questions
from last month’s meeting. [In response to some
questions, about one-third of those in attendance at
the meeting live very close, within 2 blocks, of the
proposed development.] She restated the basic
information about the project. She stated that the
project is currently seeking financial assistance for
the project as well as planning approvals with the
city. Some rezoning, she said, is required for the
project as proposed. In followup from questions from
last month, she said: - there is a report on the impact
of affordable/workforce housing on property values [a
copy of this was handed out to those who wished to have
one.]
Q. What is definition of workforce housing ? A. Those
who earn working wages in the community. Q. Does not
include homeowners? A. No.
Mayor R.T. Rybak addressed the group. [Separately the
Mayor is helping organize a meeting in the neighborhood
on airport noise development, June
27th,
Richfield Lutheran Church, 6-7pm].
Paraphrasing the Mayor’s comments: I understand this
project has raised interest and concerns. I have worked
with this group before and they are amazing. This group
has good experience. At Franklin and Nicollet, there
were concerns about property values and they were
addressed. What we have with this proposal is something
incredibly important for the city. This housing is
labeled affordable but that would be include half the
households in the city of Minneapolis. This proposal
will be on a transit corridor, Nicollet, and also on
the proposed Bus Rapid Transit line along 35W. This
proposal will help commercial development. But I am
really careful about which developers need support, and
the church will be there as well. Knowing what I know
about this group and this situation, I think you will
all be happy in a few years.
Q.
What about City Limits apartments near Cub? A. (Mayor):
those kind of large projects are not what are proposed
any longer. This proposal will be much better managed.
Q. How far back does the reputation of this developer
go? A. (Mayor): from the first week I was in office
(2002), I had to deal with a proposal right by Plymouth
Church. I stood with that proposal at Blaisdell and
Franklin and there has been a number of other
developments since then in the area. In 2004, Plymouth
helped with other well-managed and affordable housing
projects. Mayflower Church is an additional partner
that makes the projecd stronger. Q. So 5 years’
experience.
Q. What evidence is there that property values aren’t
affected? A. (Mayor): The Boulevard housing development
at 54th
and Lyndale
was a big controversy a few years ago. The city was
working with Kowalski’s and the fact that more people
living across the street helped attract them. Q. But
doesn’t commercial values tend to depress housing
values since more density for customers does not
enhance residential values? A (Mayor): residential
values around 54th
and Lyndale
went up. Tangletown Gardens has been a positive for the
neighborhood. Q: is there any comparative data on
housing values? A (Sarah Cortright): there is
conflicting data and studies on this.
Q. The Boulevard project should not be compared with
this proposal since it is on a busy street, not a
residential street, and Boulevard has market-rate units
instead of a massive rental proposal. A. (Mayor):
Plymouth and Mayflower are stronger partners in this
project than the Boulevard. Q. Where is there a project
of this scale on a street that is not a bus line? The
scale is intimidating.
Q. Have any real estate appraisals been done over the
long-term? A.
Q. There has been a lot of controversy over McMansions
and being out of scale. This is a rental McMansion:
Traffic and scale are too much. A (Mayor): the issues
you raise are good ones; the issues of scale and
traffic and impact need to be addressed as we go
through this process. The site is a very interesting
location. I will keep pressure on the developer to look
at the scale issue.
Q. In the examples you gave of LaSalle, there has been
a lot of owner occupied condos developed so didn’t that
help? A (Mayor): there are not exactly similar
neighborhoods.
Q. When Liberty Custard was proposed, the alterative
was a garage and neighborhood concerns helped give us
Liberty Custard.
Q. Will Mayflower give the neighbors say over more than
just the color of the building? A. [Lee Blons]: The
previous meeting comment was that the church said the
neighbors could have a say on the color of the
building, but not of the tenants.
Q. What is parking requirement? A. 0.9 [spaces per
housing unit] for these kinds of units. Q. Is that
being met right now on the other rental buildings in
the immediate area. A. [Mayor]: we need to look at
traffic issues. A (Sarah Cortright): this issue is
being addressed by the developer and the
city.
Q. Where can I find the city’s Comprehensive Plan? A.
[Mayor]: the city is redoing the plan right now so you
can participate.
City’s web site is:
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/planning/
Comprehensive Plan update is at
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/planning/comp_plan_update.asp
Planning Commission is at
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/planning/commission/index.asp
Agendas are at
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/cped/agendas/planning-commission/
Q. Mr Mayor, you are standing behind Plymouth as
developers but we talked with some neighborhood people
in Northeast Nokomis Neighborhood Association who found
them very arrogant, uncooperative and offensive to the
neighbors. A. [Mayor]: I have not found that to be
true.
Q. Will this property be tax exempt? A. [Lee Blons].
The project is not tax exempt. The property tax rate is
higher than homestead but lower than commercial.
[Mayor]: this project is better with a good non-profit
developer than many would be with for-profit. Q. I
don’t think this building will pay over ¼ million
dollars per year based on 40 units times what I pay. Q.
Why not put this project on a site which already has
the appropriate zoning? Russ Adams: I don’t have the
answer to that.
Russ Adams, Executive Director of the the Alliance for
Metropolitan Stability (http://www.metrostability.org/)
made a short statement. His comments, paraphrased: we
work all over the metro area, your concerns are very
appropriate. You should ask about design standards and
seek good a well-managed building. This is a medium
density proposal. Q. That does not seem medium. What is
definition of medium? A. Less than 20 units per acre.
Adams continued: this project is a model of helping
people get beyond being just a renter, with on-site
services. Absentee landlord ownership would be a
disaster but this is well-managed and well-designed. I
have seen only good impacts on property values from
well- designed projects. [Q. Can you give us research
or studies on the places were it did not work?] You
have every right to pressure the developers and ask
hard questions.
More questions from the floor. Q. What does
evidence-based best practices say? It seems that
nationally the trend is to scattered-site approaches,
and section 8 vouchers. This proposal does not seem
consistent with this trend. A. [Adams]: there are some
places that are building 100% affordable housing in a
number of places in the metro area. There is not one
kind of project being built.
Q. Itasca project looked at racial and other
disparities in the metro area. Their report showed that
most jobs are beyond 5 miles of downtown. So why locate
more people in the city?A. [Mayor]: I was on that study
and it proposed transit-based development along transit
corridors. I will be in Washington DC tomorrow to talk
about funding for a project to promote transit-based
development.
Q. But 80% of the new jobs being created are outside
the central cities. A. [Mayor]: we are trying to get
good transit to serve both the downtowns and suburban
job opportunities. [Adams]: BRT along I35W will allow
for reverse commuting. The location of new job openings
(eg people leaving existing jobs) and the location of
newly created jobs is not the same.
Q. How is this considered smart or green growth? A.
[Adams]: integrates transportation corridors, transit,
commercial nodes, design. There is a negotiation
process that will continue over the next few months.
Q. I am a member of Mayflower and would like to know
about the cost-effectiveness of the 40 unit proposal?
Q. What scares me is that all the people who have
influence on this project seem to be in favor. The
Mayor is for it and the developers are for it but these
are the kinds of people that we have to take our
concerns to? Q. What can concerned neighbors do to get
our presentation of our concerns heard?
A. Sarah Cortright. We should set up a separate meeting
to have that kind of discussion.
Q. But TNA is asking various speakers who seem to be
supporting this project? Why can’t we have time on an
agenda to make our presentation? The last meeting we
seemed only to have people speaking for the project?
Why can we not hear about the reasons for the number of
units? Or why not put this project on another [land]
site?
Q. [Mayor]: the number one issue in the city right now
is foreclosure. There has been too much concentration
of certain social issues in one or two parts of the
city and all areas need to play a role. Q: but why not
put this building on an abandoned drug house? A.
[Mayor]: we are doing that? But people in those areas
ask “why can’t other areas help as well?”
Q. The scale of this project changes the balance of the
immediate surroundings. A. [Lee Blons]. In terms of
economies of scale and operating costs, the number of
units drives the overall cost-effectiveness that
funders look for. The median income in this
neighborhood (Tangletown) is $75,000 vs $37,000 in the
city as a whole.
Q. Where does the subsidy for the rent come from? And
is there a need for more apartments in this
neighborhood? There are many vacancies already. Why not
use the housing voucher approach? A. [Lee Blons]. 80%
of units won’t have rent subsidies. Capital costs are
what is reduced by tax credits. City’s financing is 30
year deferred loan, at a likely 0-2% interest rate. 20%
of units are rent subsidized by state (MHFA) and other
funds. Housing vouchers is about 2-3 year waiting list.
Q. But won’t this project then allow people to get
special consideration over those waiting for a voucher.
A. [Lee Blons]: Most affordable housing proposals now
are about lowering the capital cost and getting the
ongoing operating costs down. The vacancy rate we
(Plymouth) have looked at in Tangletown does not seem
high for the kinds of 2-3 bedroom units in this
proposal.
Q. Did other proposals Plymouth has developed address
neighborhood concerns?
A. [Lee Blons]. We have had neighborhood association
support in all but one case.
Q. [Rev Sarah Campbell]: we went door-knocking in the
neighborhood and found support. [Large response from
audience]: who did you talk to since lots of neighbors
are in opposition? There are 32 people on a Google
group that are opposed.
Q. What is in this proposal financially for Mayflower?
A. [Rev Sarah Campbell]: it is part of the gospel. A.
[Lee Blons for Plymouth]: there will be a developer fee
that the city allows. The developer uses the fee to
sustain the non-profit developer. The rental income
will come in to pay for maintenance over the next 30
years.
Q. Is the city still pursuing more density as a goal?
A. [Mayor]. Yes. The million people coming to the metro
area in the next few decades need to be located around
transit corridors. The city’s long range plan is for
more density along transit corridors.
Q. Is there any other non-profit developers putting
workforce housing into Tangletown?
A. [Lee Blons]: we are not aware of any.
Q. Why not put this money (city subsidy) into vouchers?
A [Mayor]: we have been doing some scattered-site
developments. But one of the problems is that people
with vouchers tend to end up concentrated into some
areas such as parts of north Minneapolis. Q. why is
that (refusing to rent to people with vouchers); isn’t
there a good reason for that? A. [Lee Blons]: often
times the rent in voucher programs is too low. And the
amount of paperwork and inspections are unpopular with
some landlords.
Sarah Cortright: the board will have an agenda item
next month for those concerned with this project to
present information, if a request is made.
Q. Is there an example of where you, the developer, has
had rezoning opposed by substantial numbers of people?
A. [Lee Blons]: With our Lydia project in Stevens
Square, the proposal went to the city council and the
neighborhood association which opposed the project 3
years ago now supports it.
Q. Is that a 55/45% owner rental neighborhood like
Tangletown? A. No that was 95% rental but there was
some new owner condo developments coming.
[For people interested in this issue, there is a Google
Groups ('Mayflower Housing Watch') that those concerned
about the project can communicate. You will need a
Google account (free) and to make a request to join the
group to participate.]
Q. How is the neighborhood defined? The people most
affected are in a small area. It feels like the IDS
tower is being put into my neighborhood? A. [Mayor]:
city planner can help explain how the process will
work.
[Planner]: project proposers will be seeking rezoning,
some conditional permits, land use applications. Staff
will make findings. Planning Commission then acts on
the recommended approval or denial. Rezoning only goes
to City Council. Criteria can be found on the city’s
web site and the 11-page Guide to Development. [The
following appears to be that document:
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/planning/docs/zoningguide10-04.pdf
but check
the web site carefully.] Planning Commission meetings
are open and neighbors will be notified.
SUMMARY
Sarah
Cortright summarized next actions:
Questions for next meeting should be emailed to
Tangletown Board (board@tangletown.org)
If a written request from opponents is received, we
will have time on the next agenda.
If you have an email address, please submit it to the
TNA web site (by signing up for the Yahoo Group) and
we’ll try to keep people informed on what is happening.
7. July
4th
Meeting
discussion Laura Silver emailed assignments in an
email. Please come at 8.30am to help with last minute
arrangements. Sarah will get some ice and change for
ticket sales. Some left over t-shirts will be available
for sale.
8. Put on web site that all block leaders should get
emails to TNA.
9. Election of officers for the Board for 2007-2008
deferred to next month.
10. Adjournment
Attendance: Sarah Cortright, Mary
Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Supat Tipayamongkol, Ryan
Fisher, Mary Jane Mitchell
Not present: Meredith Johnson, Joe
Thiegs.
2007-2008
Board
Sarah
Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher,
Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Joe Thiegs, Mary Jane
Mitchell, Chris Burns.
Approved July 16th meeting
2007 May 21st Board Meeting Minutes
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, May 21, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda. Item #4 deferred to future meeting. Amended agenda approved.
3. Approval of Minutes. Posted on the website. Moved and approved.
4. Assistant Principal Jay Alexander, Washburn High School (DEFERRED)
5. Election of board for 2007-2008. A number of existing members (Sarah Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Joe Thiegs) have expressed interest in serving in 2007-2008. Up to 15 members can be on the Board. In addition, nominations from the floor were made for Mary Jane Mitchell, Kerry Bachman, Chris Burns. The existing and three proposed members were elected for 2007-2008 by the TNA Annual Meeting.
6. Development plans of Mayflower Church The main part of the meeting consisted on a presentation by the Mayflower Church on the proposed housing project at 54th and Stevens, adjacent to the church itself. The developer is Plymouth Church Neighborhood Foundation. The Foundation has developed a number of recent projects, including Lydia in Stevens Square neighborhood. We [the Foundation] believe well managed affordable housing can be an asset to the neighborhood.
The project will apply to the city on July 6th for city approval. As part of that process, the neighborhood association will be asked to respond and give feedback on the project. It is anticipated that some adjustments in zoning will be requested from the city.
Reverend Sarah Campbell explained how Mayflower Church came to propose this project. The Church [she said] is completely committed to this community and neighborhood. The church has been deliberating for two years on what to do with its lots and who to partner with on a housing project.
Urban Works architects explained the concept for the project. The existing single family house would be replaced with an “L” shaped building of 3 and one half stories with 40 units, mostly for families. A planner from the city of Minneapolis, Amanda Arnold, explained how the development process will work, involving both rent assistance and zoning changes. The project has not submitted an application yet. The Planning Commission will be provided a staff recommendation on any chances to zoning or on any application for conditional use permits. Staff will make findings related to the project’s compliance with the city’s comprehensive plan. Any rezonings or appeals would go to the city council.


Left: attendance Middle: architect explaining design Right: Board members
Questions were asked about how appeals can be made and how neighborhood comments are integrated into the process. Current zoning is single family.
Council member Scott Benson added that a traffic study has already been requested. A question was asked about how water runoff issues in this area will be addressed if a larger building is put on a grass site. The architects said they will be required to address this issue in the design process. Council member Scott Benson explained how his office can help provide information on the project approval process. He also noted that Mn/DOT will be holding a public meeting this week on the 35W/Crosstown project.
There was a question and answer period between people attending the meeting and the presenters. Many questions were raised with concerns about aspects of the project or its overall scope and scale. Comments were also made in favor of the project. Detailed notes were not taken of this part of the meeting since the minute taker had to leave. Many of the issues raised can be found in the June minutes that will be posted on this web site. Summary notes of the remainder of the meeting follow:
Mayflower and the developer will respond to questions from the May meeting or submitted by email at next month's meeting [see June minutes].
Brian Elliot, District Director from Congressman Keith Ellison's office presented an office update. Their office is located at Penn and Plymouth Ave. North in the Minneapolis Urban League Building. They have 6 full-time staff who focus on getting constituents in touch with resources revolving around federal government issues. Keith Ellison serves on the Financial Services Committee as well as the Judiciary Committee. His focuses are on peace, sustainability/environmental justice, human/civil rights, voting rights, and prosperity for working families. The office can be reached at 612-522-1212 or online at http://ellison.house.gov.
7. Open Matters – Board Members or Members of Tangletown
Tom Balcom gave gave a follow up on the All About Family program held April 21. He brought the completed lego watertower model which is hoped to be put on display at the Washburn library once a plastic case is built for it. About 14 children and 5 adults showed up for the event which was enjoyable and well run. --Footnote: Tom mentioned that he has learned that the city in fact no longer uses the watertower at all.
4th of July update: Laura has secured volunteers to head up the following: posters, inflatable slide, root beer, sno cones, and a pot luck. 2 bands have committed. Steve is going to take on the raffle again this year, and Ryan is going to work on getting the hot dog vendor to return else find an applicable substitute. It should be noted that this event will be cancelled in the event of inclement weather (rain).
8. Adjournment
Attendance: Sarah Cortright, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Norman Foster, Andrew Hedden, Laura Silver, Joe Thiegs, Supat Tipayamongkol.
Not present: Mary Davidson, Steve Edwards, Meredith Johnson,
2006-2007 Board
Sarah Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Steve Edwards, Ryan Fisher, Norman Foster, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Laura Silver, Joe Thiegs, Supat Tipayamongkol.
Approved with direction for changes at June 2007 meeting.
2007 April 16th Board Meeting Minutes
Minutes
Draft
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, April 16, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1.
Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda. Moved and seconded.
3. Approval of Minutes. Moved and seconded.
4. Water Tower. Sam Sarat talked about irrigation
issues at the Water Tower. Discussions have been
continuing with the Water Dept regarding installation
of an irrigation system. Sam requested that Board
members sign a letter supporting the project to Council
Member Benson.
5. Variance requests at 4737 Blaisdell Avenue – Thomas
and AnnaMarie Erbes discussed their request to address
flooding issues. The City separated storm and sanitary
sewers a few years ago and this separation means that
water does not dissipate as fast as it should. Water
now flows into the back yard and into the tuck under
garage from backup and flow in the alley. The
recommended solution is to raise the grade at the back
of the property by 1-2 feet and develop an accessory
structure. The variance request is from the wall plate
limit in the zoning code. Other elements of the project
meet the zoning code in the revised plan. Moved and
seconded that the Board write to the city and state
that TNA does not oppose this application.
6. Development plans of Mayflower Church. Bob Pomeroy,
a member of the church, described a property at
54th
and Stevens
that the church owns. This property has been used for
the last 10 years as temporary housing for refugees.
The cost of maintaining this house has become a
challenge for the church, and discussions have been
going on for a few years on what to do with the
property. The parish decided that it would like to do
something in housing and is proposing an affordable
housing development, in partnership with the Plymouth
Church Neighborhood Foundation. The goal is to create a
building that fits into the neighborhood and that
addresses a need for workforce housing. Lee Blons
(lblons@plymouthfoundation.org) of the Foundation
(http://www.plymouthfoundation.org/) described the
proposal a little more and offered to come with a full
proposal at a later date, probably May or June. [This
presentation is planned for the May
21st
meeting at
Fuller Park.] The proposal will seek housing tax
credits and will seek neighborhood support. The
proposal is for 42 units, with underground parking,
mostly 2-3 bedroom units for families. Rental range
will be $500 for 1 bedroom to $1,000 for larger units.
The property would be owned by Plymouth Church
Neighborhood Foundation and Mayflower would be
substantially involved. A number of people in
attendance asked questions about the proposal: Q: What
effect do these kinds of projects have on property
values? A: Family Housing Fund has done research that
there is no impact. Q: How certain is it that the
property will be maintained? What about vacancies? A:
The City and State look closely at the financial and
operating plan. We build high quality structures. Q:
Where are your other developments? A: Stevens Square,
Powerderhorn, Loring Park. Followup Q: My experience in
real estate has been that subsidized housing does not
help housing values. Q: Why 42 units? A: The building
will be L-shaped and this fits the property. The
54th
street side
of the building will be designed to have a
townhouse-look façade. Q: Why this location? A: the
church owns the property at this location. Comment: I
support this plan for workforce housing in southwest
Minneapolis. Q: There are a number of developments
already in the area. How can we be sure that this
development will minimize the risk of undesirable
effects? A: The professional management company will
work to screen tenants actively. Q: Have you developed
a similar-sized project is a similar neighborhood? A:
Most of our specific projects have generally had
commercial neighbors. Q: What is the zoning situation?
A: The property would likely need to be rezoned to
multifamily. Q: What share of the 42 units would be
market rate? A: This is workforce housing and the
household incomes of $30,000 to $50,000. 80% of the
units would not have rental assistance. 20% would be
Section 8 or similar. Q: Mayflower sent out a letter in
March regarding this proposal. This letter seems to
assume that the neighbors should have no say in the
proposal. It also seems that this proposal has been
under discussion for over a year [A: there was a
student competition a year ago that looked at the site;
it is not this proposal]. Q: Why not more dispersed
pattern of housing rather than 42 units on one site? A:
The median income in the city is $38,000; in Tangletown
about $75,000. Lots of workers in the city deserve a
place to live in the city. The proposers would like to
make a fuller presentation of the full project at the
May 21st
meeting, if
that would be possible. The Board agreed that this
presentation would be useful. Mayflower will send a
letter to the neighbors around the property to let
people know this discussion will take place. [The Board
will ask the proposers if they can come at 6pm and
allow interested parties to ask questions and look at
materials—see the website for updates on this. The
meeting itself will begin at 7pm.] Reminder: Saturday
is Earth Day and community event will take place at
Lyndale Community Center.
7. NRP report – Tom Balcom. Four strategies are being
pursued: housing, transportation and safety, public
spaces and quality of life. These strategies will be
forwarded to the board for discussion at the June
meeting. Washburn High School would like to present
some information at a future TNA meeting.
8. Treasurer’s Report – Supat Tipayamongkol
8. Open
Matters – Board Members or Members of Tangletown
Garage sale—Supat will collate submissions, Joe and
Meredith will distribute signs and maps, Meredith will
look into an ad in the Star Tribune, Norman will
prepare maps and circulate by email, and post ads on
Craigs List. 4th
of
July—preparations continue. The Board authorized a
budget of the same size as last year plus the cost of
renting a tent for a pot luck.
9.
Adjournment
Attendance:
Sarah Cortright, Mary Davidson, Ryan Fisher, Norman
Foster, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Joe Thiegs,
Supat Tipayamongkol.
Not present: Jerry
Doyle, Steve Edwards, Laura Silver.
2006-2007
Board
Sarah
Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Steve Edwards,
Ryan Fisher, Norman Foster, Andrew Hedden, Meredith
Johnson, Laura Silver, Joe Thiegs, Supat
Tipayamongkol.
2007 March 19th Board Meeting Minutes
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, March 19, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda. Moved and seconded. Approved.
3. Approval of Minutes from February 2007. Moved and seconded. Approved.
4. NRP Report -- Group will be meeting March 20 and again April 10. By mid-April they hope to determine action strategies. They've had guest speakers come in to discuss potential initiatives. 70% of this NRP funding will be dedicated to Housing improvements. South High School held their Housing Fair last week, and Southwest High School will have theirs this coming Saturday. The Housing Fairs are good opportunities to see what other NRP groups are doing with funding. TNA NRP home loans will likely be advertised in TNA Newsletter and perhaps the Southwest Journal. As loans are repaid to NRP those funds do not necessary need to be dedicated to Housing initiatives.
5. Treasurers Report -- Supat was out of the country
6. Upcoming Events -- TNA Newsletter stories must be submitted by 3/20. Mary Davidson will submit information regarding Earth Day Clean Up (4/21) (see below). This newsletter would also be a good chance to solicit volunteers for the 4th of July event. The newsletter will be printed this week.
The TNA Garage Sale is scheduled for the weekend of May 4th and 5th.
7. Open Matters – Board Members or Members of Tangletown
Earth Day Cleanup will take place 4/21 9:30-noon. Meet at Lynhurst Community Center where cleanup supplies will be provided. Area of focus will be the creek extending in both directions from the Community Center. Mary Davidson has volunteered to assist with the program by hanging posters at Tangletown area businesses. A listing will also be made in the TNA Newsletter.
All In The Family will hold their Lego Project on Saturday 4/21 in the afternoon. Since meeting at the library means food cannot be served, the group will pursue Fuller Park as the event location and provide pizza for attendees. There is a minimal fee for use of Fuller Park on that day. Since Phase 1 NRP fund status is unknown this event will be paid for using TNA funds.
8. Adjournment. Moved and seconded. Approved.
Attendance:
Mary Davidson, Joe Thiegs, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Andrew Hedden,
Not present: Steve Edwards, Norman Foster, Sarah Cortright, Meredith Johnson, Laura Silver, Supat Tipayamongkol
2006-2007 Board
Sarah Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Steve Edwards, Ryan Fisher, Norman Foster, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Laura Silver, Joe Thiegs, Supat Tipayamongkol.
Approved April 16th
2007 February 19th Board Meeting Minutes
Minutes
Tangletown Neighborhood Association
Regular Meeting, Monday, February 19, 2007
7:00 P.M. Fuller Park
1.
Call to Order
2. Approval of Agenda. Moved and seconded. Approved.
3. Approval of Minutes from January 2007. Moved and
seconded. Approved.
4. Newsletter. Georgia Stephens discussed the recent
history of the newsletter and stated that she will be
phasing out of working on the newsletter over the next
two issues. Anyone interested in taking a role on the
newsletter should email
editor@tangletown.org
The
deadline for the Spring issue is March
19th
(next Board
meeting) in terms of getting text to the editors.
5. Charter Wine/Beer License for Cafe Ena at 46th
Street W. and Grand Ave S. – Erin Ungerman. New café
will be opening that will serve latin fusion cuisine.
The owners are seeking a wine and beer license. The
café will be similar to El Meson. They plan to open at
the end of March/beginning of April. Moved to send a
letter to the City that TNA does not oppose this
application. Seconded. Approved.
6. Unofficial Tangletown website – Bruce Jenkinson.
Described a new website he and Susan Birdsey are
developing to introduce the neighborhood to newcomers
to the areas. The site will have information on history
such as the Water Tower and orphanage, and may have
links to local businesses. It is planned to go live in
a few months.
7. Discussion of Tangletown crime concerns. Jerry Doyle
and Tom Balcom will be meeting with the new Police Dept
Crime Specialist to talk about recent crime issues.
There have been some incidents of repeated vandalism
("tagging") in the last few months. Communication with
Washburn has been ongoing to help address this and
other student-related issues but there are reports of
relatively little progress to date.
8. NRP report – Tom Balcom. Meetings on NRP Phase 2 are
continuing and the committee has been meeting with
planners from the Park Board on Fuller Park needs and
other issues such as boulevards and trees. Jean White
also attended that meeting and also this Board Meeting.
She is with the Community Education Program at Washburn
High School. Jean reported that Washburn is planning an
Earth Day cleanup and the student volunteer association
may also do some recycling and planting trees as well.
Jean also agreed to contact the Washburn administration
regarding restarting discussions about neighborhood
concerns regarding student behavior. Tom Balcom noted
the NRP story in today’s Star Tribune regarding whether
there will be a Phase 3 of NRP after 2009. There have
been lots of discussions taking place across the city
regarding this issue and there will be lots more in the
next months and years. Tom attended the Lynnhurst Expo
community event last week and it featured a number of
booths publicizing various issues or services. In
January, All About Family came to talk to the
Tangletown board about possibilities of holding an
event in the neighborhood. Tom will talk to Fuller
about whether it could host a possible Lego Washburn
Water Tower event in April or May.
9. Treasurer’s Report – Supat Tipayamongkol. Balance is
$7,927.09 at present.
10. Open Matters – Board Members or Members of
Tangletown President has the new citizen participation
contract. Moved, seconded and approved to have
President sign the new contract. Lynnhurst is looking
for a neighborhood representative to assist with an
Earth Day clean up along Minnehaha Creek.
11. Adjournment. Moved and seconded. Approved.
Attendance:
Sarah Cortright, Jerry Doyle, Ryan Fisher, Norman
Foster, Andrew Hedden, Meredith Johnson, Laura Silver,
Supat Tipayamongkol
Other: Tom Balcom, Georgia Stephens, Erin Ungerman,
Bruce Jenkinson, Susan Birdsey, Jean White.
Not present: Mary
Davidson, Steve Edwards, Joe Thiegs.
2006-2007
Board
Sarah
Cortright, Mary Davidson, Jerry Doyle, Steve Edwards,
Ryan Fisher, Norman Foster, Andrew Hedden, Meredith
Johnson, Laura Silver, Joe Thiegs, Supat
Tipayamongkol.
Approved March 19th
2007 January 15th Board Meeting Minutes
Minutes
Tangletown
Neighborhood Association
Regular
Meeting, Monday, January 15, 2007
7:00 P.M.
Fuller Park
1.
Call to Order.
2. Approval of Agenda. Agenda moved and approved.
3. Approval of Minutes. Minutes moved and approved.
4. Presentation by Brian Kelley, Director of
All
About FamilyMr. Kelley
talked about the activities of All
About Family in
partnering with lots of groups in the city, engaging
kids and families in arts, entrepreneurship and
architecture-related projects. Neighborhood groups can
consider investing some NRP funds into materials for
projects (past examples include a LEGO version of the
Split Rock Lighthouse). A current project in St Paul is
building a church from Fergus Falls and learn about the
history of the church at the same time. An idea for
Tangletown could be to build a model of the Water
Tower. The cost for an event would be about $150 for
materials. A number of restaurants and local businesses
already sponsor the program. More information is
available at
http://www.allaboutfam.com
The program
is aimed at below high school age and requires both
kids and parents to be involved. Steve Edwards moved
that the NRP committee examine the potential for
holding an event like this in the neighborhood.
Seconded and passed.
5. NRP report. Tom Balcom reported that two Phase 2
meetings were held in November and another last week.
The focus in Phase 2 is on housing. More members of the
committee are still welcome and volunteers should
contact Tom. The next meeting will include
representatives from the City departments such as parks
to discuss their five-year plans. The Phase 2 plan will
be drafted in February and March. NRP Phase 2 will end
in 2009. There will be a few fairs in March that focus
on Home Improvement and Energy Conservation that could
be a good place to let people know about Tangletown’s
NRP Phase 2. Tom is also meeting with a group of other
NRP coordinators.
6. NRP survey. The city’s NRP program has sent out a
survey for some Tom will confer with Peg Mountin at the
next NRP meeting and report back to the President.
7. Treasurer’s Report. Current balance in the main
account is $6,139.48.
8. Open
Matters – Board Members or Members of Tangletown
9.
Adjournment
Attendance: Sarah
Cortright, Mary Davidson, Steve Edwards, Ryan Fisher,
Norman Foster, Andrew Hedden, Joe Thiegs, Supat
Tipayamongkol
Other: Tom
Balcom, Brian Kelley
Not present: Laura Silver (apologies sent), Jerry
Doyle, Meredith Johnson
Approved February 19th