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Making Of Kinsey on TV
They are showing the making of
Kinsey
(2 Clips) on TV. Here be the transcript! Thanks to Kathy and Sally for
providing me with this.
Transcript part
1:
Kinsey: Don’t sit so far away. Anything that creates a distance should be avoided. (voice only)
Martin: Okay. (voice only)
Kinsey: You have to relax. How am I expected to open up if you're not relaxed? (voice only)
Martin: Right.
Kinsey: Take a deep breath, start again. (voice only)
(shooting process) Roll sound!
Condon: Action!
Condon: Kinsey was a true pioneer. He got people to talk about what people were actually doing sexually instead of what they said they were doing.
Liam: He was an individual who saw a huge gap in our knowledge.
(film clip) Kinsey: Everyone is different. (voice only)
Linney: The repercussions of his work and how it effected our culture, no matter what someone thinks about that, whether they’re happy about that or not, you know, it was sort of a remarkable life.
Condon: There is some basic ideas that Kinsey was trying to get through to people that are just as relevant today as they were then.
(film clip) Kinsey: From a sexual standpoint, it's hard to say what's common or rare because we know so little about what people actually do.
Liam: Sex still is very, very controversial, and the offshoots of sex, you know, the gender equality, over-population, the research he did taps into all that.
Linney: Alfred Kinsey was the first scientist to study sexual behavior and gather data about it, and come up with a scientific view of sexual behavior. And he was the first person I believe to say, at least from a scientific point of view, that everybody’s sexuality is different.
(film clip) Martin: How did you get along with your father and mother when you were growing up? (voice only)
Kinsey: That's some multiple question. It allows me to ignore any part that I don’t want to answer. (voice only)
Martin: How did you get a long with your mother?
Kinsey: Fine, we have a close relationship. (voice only)
Martin: And your father? How did you get along with your father?
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: Lust has a thousand avenues, like the hydra, it grows new heads.
Condon: This man who changed the world, what drove him to do this, and I think it came from a very personal need …
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: A talon slide-fastener, otherwise known as the zipper, which provides every man and boy speedy access … tomorrow oblivion.
Lithgow: He had an extremely difficult childhood with a tyrannical repressive father. (voice only)
Liam: He was a very very strict Methodist; there was no talk ever about sex, no introduction to girls.
(film clip) Kinsey's father: It is the Lord’s work to protect the young from temptation.
Lithgow: Every son’s got to rebel at some point. Well, young Alfred had more cause then usual to rebel.
(film Clip) young Kinsey: Shaddup!, You know what you are, Father? A prig!
(film clip) Martin: At what age did you first have pre-marital intercourse?
Kinsey: I didn't . (voice only)
Martin: So, at the time of marriage you were a virgin?
Kinsey: Yes.
Martin: Was your spouse also a virgin?
Kinsey: Yes.
Martin: When you got married did you wanna get married?
Kinsey: Very much! *swoon*
(film clip) Clara: Hello!
Condon: It was clear that the emotional heart of this movie was Clara, Kinsey's wife. She was always the one who was his sounding board and also his greatest fan.
(film clip) Kinsey: I've spent the last 3 years criss-crossing the continent collecting gall wasps. And what have I learned from my tiny friends half the size of a household ant?
(Whispers in the classroom between two students whom were hushed up by Clara)
Liam: Kinsey couldn't have achieved what he did without Mack. She was a remarkable women and they had this extraordinary marriage. She was one of the few people in the world I think he actually listened to.
(film clip) Kinsey: That's it, Mack! Every problem has a solution, even this one! We just need to talk to someone.
Linney: She was very much her own women, and it seems to me they were perfectly matched.
(film clip) Kinsey: Oral contact while acceptable as a means of stimulation is pathological if carried through to orgasm, and possibly injurious.
Clara: I must be in grave danger then.
Condon: Once he discovered sex, something that's forbidden obviously becomes very very appealing. He really embraced it and wanted to save other people from the same torment.
(film clip) Kinsey: Herman, the trustees appointed you to shake things up around here. Why not address the need for sex instruction that deals frankly with students’ real questions, real concerns?
Liam: So he decided with Herman Wells, who was the president of the university, that they would set up this marriage course and talk to the students about sex.
(film clip) Kinsey: Why offer a marriage course? Because society has interfered with what should be a normal biological development, causing a scandalous delay of sexual activity which leads to sexual difficulty in early marriage.
Linney: What was called a marriage course, which was basically a sex education course, probably the first of it's kind ever.
(film clip continues) Kinsey: In an uninhibited society, a 12-year-old would know most of the biology which I will have to give you in formal lectures.
Liam: He was profoundly moved by the ignorance of the students at that time. (voice only)
(film Clip) Kinsey: Who can tell me which part of human body can enlarge a hundred times? Umm......... Miss!
Student: I’m sure I don’t know, and you have no right to ask such a question in a mixed class.
Kinsey: I was referring to the pupil of your eye, young lady, and I think I should tell you that your are in for a terrible disappointment.
Liam: That spurred him on to more and more research. And because he was a quite obsessive character, he just got more and more into his subject matter and devoted his whole life to it.
Hutton: Liam is so much Kinsey. He is so much the character of … (continued in part 2)
Transcript part 2:
Hutton: (He is so much the character of) that man. There is an authenticity to it, of this kind, passionate man who is going to just keep going until the work is done.
(film clip) Kinsey: Hello, I am Professor Kinsey from Indiana University and I am making a study of sex behavior. Can I ask you a few questions?
man: I’ve heard about you. You’re the ‘sex doctor’, right?
Condon: I can’t imagine Kinsey without Liam Neeson playing him. You know, Kinsey obviously was fiercely intelligent which Liam is too; but underneath, there was this incredible empathy. That’s how he was able to sit opposite total strangers and get them to open up about their sex lives. He just had this incredible connection
with people, and Liam has that.
(film clip) Kinsey: what’s your most common sexual position?
woman: There’s more than one … ?
Kinsey: Mack and I are still discovering some …
Wardell Pomeroy: Did you have any illnesses that kept you out of school?
Kinsey: I had typhoid fever and rickets, also rheumatic fever, measles, chicken pox, pneumonia, and several bouts of influenza. Pomeroy, what are you doing? You’re worse than Martin. Never make judgements about people.
Condon: The essence of Kinsey’s entirely project was the sex interview, and this was something that took them years to develop and refine.
(film clip) Kinsey: Taking a sex history is a sacred trust.
Liam: He devised this interview technique, which was basically an one-on-one face-to face with the interviewee absolutely assured of confidentiality.
(film clip) Martin: As you can see, this piece of paper has been devided into squares. There are 287 of them. Your sex history will be fit on this single page in a cryptic code.
Kinsey: Don’t forget to mention there’s no written key to the code. The interviewed subject will only be candid if he knows he will be speaking in the strictest confidence.
Hutton: The most interesting is the coaching scenes where Kinsey has all of us in a room and we're asking each other questions as subjects.
(film clip) Paul Gebhard: I'd like to begin with a few background questions.
Kinsey: No, all wrong! Start by putting the subject at ease. Would you care for a drink, Mack?
Clara: Why, a glass of water would be very nice.
Kinsey: Do anything fun this weekend?
Clara: My daughters were in town so I never stopped. We had a marvelous meal Saturday night.
Kinsey: Really? What did you cook?
Clara: Well, I started with a little... (Kinsey abruptly interrupts her flow of conversation)
Kinsey: See how much more relaxed she becomes if you ease in with innocuous questions, people forget they're giving sex histories.
O’Donnell: They did work very hard. And it was the kind of thing where the weight was structured doing these histories. And not having any kind of, you know, key or keeping track of it, it had to be in their heads. It took them two months just to figure out how to take a history.
(Film Clip) Pomeroy: How old were you when you first engaged in sexual activity with a partner?
man: 14.
Pomeroy: How?
man: With whores. (heavy accent)
O’Donnell: To be able to put people at ease and, to have people trust you, and have confidence in you that they're willing to open up and tell you about themselves and their sexual history.
(film clip) Pomeroy: How often were you having intercourse with animals at age 14?
man: No, whores, not horse. Whores!!
Lithgow: What's so terribly poignant and is true, after taking thousands and thousands of sex histories, he takes his own fathers sex history.
(film clip) Kinsey: How young were you when you first masturbated?
Kinsey’s father: I never did that!
Kinsey: This isn't going to work.
Kinsey’s father: Stay where you are! I’ll try again.
Lithgow: And his father says things out loud that he's never said in his life.
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: There was a problem. A chronic condition, the doctors called it.
Lithgow: Terribly poignant, I mean that's the scene that really made me want to play the part.
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: I was outfitted with a tight strap that I had to wear at all times. It kept me from coming into contact with my genitals.
Kinsey: I'm so sorry, Dad.
Condon: He criss-crossed the country with his team, taking 18 thousand sex histories.
(film clip) woman: I found a book in the dining room buffet, under all the table cloths. And I used to put it under my shirt and go into the bathroom.
Lithgow: And then he studied all that scientifically and wrote two very important volumes about it. He published it as a scientific, first 'Male Sexuality', and then 'Female Sexuality', and published them as scientific volumes. But they weren't received that way, they were received as social revolutions.
Liam: The expression I have read and heard in my research for the role was that it was like an atomic bomb going off.
Linney: He said things that people didn't necessarily want to hear.
(film clip) Alan Greg: It's advisable to stick with what's normal, you don't want to shake people up.
Kinsey: Of course not.
Linney: It shocked a lot of people.
(film clip) reporter1 Are you surprised at the success of your book?
Kinsey No, it shows that the world has wanted this done.
Condon Kinsey actually enjoyed his fame which is surprising. Because here is somebody who is the button down scientist, he's only interested in his work, but there was a little bit of a preacher in him too. (voice only)
(film clip) reporter2: Any plans for a Hollywood picture based on the book?
Kinsey: I can't think of anything more pointless.
reporter3: How about you, Mrs. Kinsey? Has your life changed much?
Clara: My husband's busier than ever. I hardly see him since he's taken up sex.
Condon: Kinsey, this movie is definitely a love story. It's about a very unconventional marriage.
(film clip) Kinsey: I've taken on so many other peoples' secrets. I don't want any of my own.
Clara: Haven't I always been open to whatever you wanted?
Condon: They have to weather some pretty serious storms, including infidelity on both parts.
Liam: We haven’t avoided any issue and any of the controversary surrounding it.
(film Clip) Clara: You told them their grandmothers and their daughters are masturbating, having premarital sex, sex with each other. What did you expect?
Kinsey: Some respect.
Liam: Hopefully people will come away believing that he was one of the great scientific figures in the 20th century.
Linney: We just all hope we do them justice. Quite frankly, they were really remarkable people.
Condon: I think no matter what point of view you might have come in with, and let's face it, sex is very personal to everybody and the movie is sort of like a litmus test, I think you'll find it in the movie. What I tried to do was present a completely balanced portrait of this man and the team.
Liam: I enjoyed it very much, yeah, in every scene. And acting with all these wonderful actors and actresses and with Bill too at the helm, every scene was a challenge. You really had to dig deep into ones own, your psyche, to help just flesh out these scenes, and this character, and I hope we've succeeded.
(film clip) woman/final interview subject: You've saved my life, Sir.
Kinsey: Don’t sit so far away. Anything that creates a distance should be avoided. (voice only)
Martin: Okay. (voice only)
Kinsey: You have to relax. How am I expected to open up if you're not relaxed? (voice only)
Martin: Right.
Kinsey: Take a deep breath, start again. (voice only)
(shooting process) Roll sound!
Condon: Action!
Condon: Kinsey was a true pioneer. He got people to talk about what people were actually doing sexually instead of what they said they were doing.
Liam: He was an individual who saw a huge gap in our knowledge.
(film clip) Kinsey: Everyone is different. (voice only)
Linney: The repercussions of his work and how it effected our culture, no matter what someone thinks about that, whether they’re happy about that or not, you know, it was sort of a remarkable life.
Condon: There is some basic ideas that Kinsey was trying to get through to people that are just as relevant today as they were then.
(film clip) Kinsey: From a sexual standpoint, it's hard to say what's common or rare because we know so little about what people actually do.
Liam: Sex still is very, very controversial, and the offshoots of sex, you know, the gender equality, over-population, the research he did taps into all that.
Linney: Alfred Kinsey was the first scientist to study sexual behavior and gather data about it, and come up with a scientific view of sexual behavior. And he was the first person I believe to say, at least from a scientific point of view, that everybody’s sexuality is different.
(film clip) Martin: How did you get along with your father and mother when you were growing up? (voice only)
Kinsey: That's some multiple question. It allows me to ignore any part that I don’t want to answer. (voice only)
Martin: How did you get a long with your mother?
Kinsey: Fine, we have a close relationship. (voice only)
Martin: And your father? How did you get along with your father?
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: Lust has a thousand avenues, like the hydra, it grows new heads.
Condon: This man who changed the world, what drove him to do this, and I think it came from a very personal need …
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: A talon slide-fastener, otherwise known as the zipper, which provides every man and boy speedy access … tomorrow oblivion.
Lithgow: He had an extremely difficult childhood with a tyrannical repressive father. (voice only)
Liam: He was a very very strict Methodist; there was no talk ever about sex, no introduction to girls.
(film clip) Kinsey's father: It is the Lord’s work to protect the young from temptation.
Lithgow: Every son’s got to rebel at some point. Well, young Alfred had more cause then usual to rebel.
(film Clip) young Kinsey: Shaddup!, You know what you are, Father? A prig!
(film clip) Martin: At what age did you first have pre-marital intercourse?
Kinsey: I didn't . (voice only)
Martin: So, at the time of marriage you were a virgin?
Kinsey: Yes.
Martin: Was your spouse also a virgin?
Kinsey: Yes.
Martin: When you got married did you wanna get married?
Kinsey: Very much! *swoon*
(film clip) Clara: Hello!
Condon: It was clear that the emotional heart of this movie was Clara, Kinsey's wife. She was always the one who was his sounding board and also his greatest fan.
(film clip) Kinsey: I've spent the last 3 years criss-crossing the continent collecting gall wasps. And what have I learned from my tiny friends half the size of a household ant?
(Whispers in the classroom between two students whom were hushed up by Clara)
Liam: Kinsey couldn't have achieved what he did without Mack. She was a remarkable women and they had this extraordinary marriage. She was one of the few people in the world I think he actually listened to.
(film clip) Kinsey: That's it, Mack! Every problem has a solution, even this one! We just need to talk to someone.
Linney: She was very much her own women, and it seems to me they were perfectly matched.
(film clip) Kinsey: Oral contact while acceptable as a means of stimulation is pathological if carried through to orgasm, and possibly injurious.
Clara: I must be in grave danger then.
Condon: Once he discovered sex, something that's forbidden obviously becomes very very appealing. He really embraced it and wanted to save other people from the same torment.
(film clip) Kinsey: Herman, the trustees appointed you to shake things up around here. Why not address the need for sex instruction that deals frankly with students’ real questions, real concerns?
Liam: So he decided with Herman Wells, who was the president of the university, that they would set up this marriage course and talk to the students about sex.
(film clip) Kinsey: Why offer a marriage course? Because society has interfered with what should be a normal biological development, causing a scandalous delay of sexual activity which leads to sexual difficulty in early marriage.
Linney: What was called a marriage course, which was basically a sex education course, probably the first of it's kind ever.
(film clip continues) Kinsey: In an uninhibited society, a 12-year-old would know most of the biology which I will have to give you in formal lectures.
Liam: He was profoundly moved by the ignorance of the students at that time. (voice only)
(film Clip) Kinsey: Who can tell me which part of human body can enlarge a hundred times? Umm......... Miss!
Student: I’m sure I don’t know, and you have no right to ask such a question in a mixed class.
Kinsey: I was referring to the pupil of your eye, young lady, and I think I should tell you that your are in for a terrible disappointment.
Liam: That spurred him on to more and more research. And because he was a quite obsessive character, he just got more and more into his subject matter and devoted his whole life to it.
Hutton: Liam is so much Kinsey. He is so much the character of … (continued in part 2)
Transcript part 2:
Hutton: (He is so much the character of) that man. There is an authenticity to it, of this kind, passionate man who is going to just keep going until the work is done.
(film clip) Kinsey: Hello, I am Professor Kinsey from Indiana University and I am making a study of sex behavior. Can I ask you a few questions?
man: I’ve heard about you. You’re the ‘sex doctor’, right?
Condon: I can’t imagine Kinsey without Liam Neeson playing him. You know, Kinsey obviously was fiercely intelligent which Liam is too; but underneath, there was this incredible empathy. That’s how he was able to sit opposite total strangers and get them to open up about their sex lives. He just had this incredible connection
with people, and Liam has that.
(film clip) Kinsey: what’s your most common sexual position?
woman: There’s more than one … ?
Kinsey: Mack and I are still discovering some …
Wardell Pomeroy: Did you have any illnesses that kept you out of school?
Kinsey: I had typhoid fever and rickets, also rheumatic fever, measles, chicken pox, pneumonia, and several bouts of influenza. Pomeroy, what are you doing? You’re worse than Martin. Never make judgements about people.
Condon: The essence of Kinsey’s entirely project was the sex interview, and this was something that took them years to develop and refine.
(film clip) Kinsey: Taking a sex history is a sacred trust.
Liam: He devised this interview technique, which was basically an one-on-one face-to face with the interviewee absolutely assured of confidentiality.
(film clip) Martin: As you can see, this piece of paper has been devided into squares. There are 287 of them. Your sex history will be fit on this single page in a cryptic code.
Kinsey: Don’t forget to mention there’s no written key to the code. The interviewed subject will only be candid if he knows he will be speaking in the strictest confidence.
Hutton: The most interesting is the coaching scenes where Kinsey has all of us in a room and we're asking each other questions as subjects.
(film clip) Paul Gebhard: I'd like to begin with a few background questions.
Kinsey: No, all wrong! Start by putting the subject at ease. Would you care for a drink, Mack?
Clara: Why, a glass of water would be very nice.
Kinsey: Do anything fun this weekend?
Clara: My daughters were in town so I never stopped. We had a marvelous meal Saturday night.
Kinsey: Really? What did you cook?
Clara: Well, I started with a little... (Kinsey abruptly interrupts her flow of conversation)
Kinsey: See how much more relaxed she becomes if you ease in with innocuous questions, people forget they're giving sex histories.
O’Donnell: They did work very hard. And it was the kind of thing where the weight was structured doing these histories. And not having any kind of, you know, key or keeping track of it, it had to be in their heads. It took them two months just to figure out how to take a history.
(Film Clip) Pomeroy: How old were you when you first engaged in sexual activity with a partner?
man: 14.
Pomeroy: How?
man: With whores. (heavy accent)
O’Donnell: To be able to put people at ease and, to have people trust you, and have confidence in you that they're willing to open up and tell you about themselves and their sexual history.
(film clip) Pomeroy: How often were you having intercourse with animals at age 14?
man: No, whores, not horse. Whores!!
Lithgow: What's so terribly poignant and is true, after taking thousands and thousands of sex histories, he takes his own fathers sex history.
(film clip) Kinsey: How young were you when you first masturbated?
Kinsey’s father: I never did that!
Kinsey: This isn't going to work.
Kinsey’s father: Stay where you are! I’ll try again.
Lithgow: And his father says things out loud that he's never said in his life.
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: There was a problem. A chronic condition, the doctors called it.
Lithgow: Terribly poignant, I mean that's the scene that really made me want to play the part.
(film clip) Kinsey’s father: I was outfitted with a tight strap that I had to wear at all times. It kept me from coming into contact with my genitals.
Kinsey: I'm so sorry, Dad.
Condon: He criss-crossed the country with his team, taking 18 thousand sex histories.
(film clip) woman: I found a book in the dining room buffet, under all the table cloths. And I used to put it under my shirt and go into the bathroom.
Lithgow: And then he studied all that scientifically and wrote two very important volumes about it. He published it as a scientific, first 'Male Sexuality', and then 'Female Sexuality', and published them as scientific volumes. But they weren't received that way, they were received as social revolutions.
Liam: The expression I have read and heard in my research for the role was that it was like an atomic bomb going off.
Linney: He said things that people didn't necessarily want to hear.
(film clip) Alan Greg: It's advisable to stick with what's normal, you don't want to shake people up.
Kinsey: Of course not.
Linney: It shocked a lot of people.
(film clip) reporter1 Are you surprised at the success of your book?
Kinsey No, it shows that the world has wanted this done.
Condon Kinsey actually enjoyed his fame which is surprising. Because here is somebody who is the button down scientist, he's only interested in his work, but there was a little bit of a preacher in him too. (voice only)
(film clip) reporter2: Any plans for a Hollywood picture based on the book?
Kinsey: I can't think of anything more pointless.
reporter3: How about you, Mrs. Kinsey? Has your life changed much?
Clara: My husband's busier than ever. I hardly see him since he's taken up sex.
Condon: Kinsey, this movie is definitely a love story. It's about a very unconventional marriage.
(film clip) Kinsey: I've taken on so many other peoples' secrets. I don't want any of my own.
Clara: Haven't I always been open to whatever you wanted?
Condon: They have to weather some pretty serious storms, including infidelity on both parts.
Liam: We haven’t avoided any issue and any of the controversary surrounding it.
(film Clip) Clara: You told them their grandmothers and their daughters are masturbating, having premarital sex, sex with each other. What did you expect?
Kinsey: Some respect.
Liam: Hopefully people will come away believing that he was one of the great scientific figures in the 20th century.
Linney: We just all hope we do them justice. Quite frankly, they were really remarkable people.
Condon: I think no matter what point of view you might have come in with, and let's face it, sex is very personal to everybody and the movie is sort of like a litmus test, I think you'll find it in the movie. What I tried to do was present a completely balanced portrait of this man and the team.
Liam: I enjoyed it very much, yeah, in every scene. And acting with all these wonderful actors and actresses and with Bill too at the helm, every scene was a challenge. You really had to dig deep into ones own, your psyche, to help just flesh out these scenes, and this character, and I hope we've succeeded.
(film clip) woman/final interview subject: You've saved my life, Sir.
Posted: Mo - November 15, 2004 at 10:31 vorm.