J$P Instant Transcript! John Loftus has more inside information on the terrorists abroad and at home, and asks, "When are we going to wake up?" Updated!

From Weekend Live, August 7 2005:

ERIC SHAWN [FOX NEWS]: John Loftus is with us, as he is every Sunday at this time. In June, John warned of the London bombings, and now has more on what we can expect in our country. John is President of the IntelligenceSummit.org, and can be heard weeknights on ABC's John Batchelor program, and is here every Sunday. John, if Britain can move to boot these guys out, why can't we?

JOHN LOFTUS: I hate to say this, but I think the FBI has been asleep at the switch. A lot of people, including my private investigator Bill Warner, who I think is the best PI in America, have said there's been a real problem with the FBI leadership in Washington. People can't get search warrants in time. If it happens outside the FBI, it doesn't get pursued. If it's not invented here, it's not touched, it's put on the back burner. Unfortunately, we're in a position where we can't allow that kind of luxury any more. Because the same organizations in the United States are directly linked to the ones in London that just pulled off the subway bombings. Eric, we're about to expose a new terrorist cell, in--

SHAWN: You mentioned that one of them is Al-Muhajiroun. We've done stories here about the fact that they are, here in America, the successor organizations. What have you found? We've been showing on this program the fact that they've desecrated the American flag, and have demanded an Islamic nation in the United States.

LOFTUS: Well, Al-Muhajiroun has offices in both New York and London. They were the parent organization, the Finsbury Mosque, of the subway bombings. Their leadership in New York was responsible for planning the subway bombings. What we're finding out is that they have a sister organization called Hizb al-Tahrir. And al-Tahrir is, if you will, the operational or training arm, Muhajiroun is the recruiting arm. Now the Russian Secret Service says that Hizb al-Tahrir is the secret radical arm of the Muslim brotherhood. This it the granddaddy of all the terrorist organizations. It goes back to the old Arab Nazi movement of the 1940s. And they worked for the British Secret Service. Then our CIA dumped them in Saudi Arabia, where they were running schools for young kids like Usama Bin Laden. But these folks have come home to roost. We have found out definitely, Bill Warner has found, that the new elected leader of the terrorist group Hizb al-Tahrir lives in Orange County, California. And that he has direct ties with the same groups in London. In fact, the group, the Islamic Thinkers Society in New York--that used to be the address, the post office box, of Iyad Kilal, also called Abu Tarik. And he lives at 500 Gerry Street, in La Habra, California--

[Loftus's information was outdated; Iyad Kilal hasn't lived there for three years, and the people who do are not pleased. Is this why FNC has stopped doing Sunday morning interviews with Loftus?--J$]

SHAWN [interrupting]: All right to be fair to him, we haven't contacted him at the moment. But the issue here is, though, you are seeing evidence of connections between these groups, connections on the websites, and connections for some calling for this type of jihad.

LOFTUS: Not just that, we've found out that this same guy, Iyad Hilal, has been the author of a book on self-study on how to become an Islamic extremist, if you will. And that one of his early neighbors at a previous address was a young kid named Adam Pearlman, who's now known as Azzam the American, who became an Al-Qaeda member and promised that America will see a new wave of terror, and that the streets will run with blood. Now he was recruited into Muslim society at the mosques where this same guy, Iyad Hilal, was one of the instructors. So the leader of the most radical terrorist arm of the same groups that did the London subway bombing, has a whole cell going in Orange County, California, and has recruited terrorists there. When are we going to wake up?

SHAWN: Well, what are we going to do about it? I mean, here we have a situation where they wants the streets of America to run with blood, and they're right here in America. Why can't we move to deport--I mean, hasn't anyone heard of treason? Or is this free speech?

LOFTUS: It can't be free speech. Under the Patriot Act, advocating and supporting Al-Qaeda is itself a felony. And as you and I, we've shown the videotapes on this website from Al-Muhajiroun and others, this is more than just stomping on the American flag. These are people that are recruiting for Al-Qaeda, they're glorifying the killers in Chechnia. The Russians are saying that the terrorist groups in Chechnia are being organized through Hizb al-Tahrir from foreign centers abroad. And the headquarters, the leader of that Hizb al-Tahrir terrorist movement, is in Orange County, California, and is not being touched. This has to stop. When I was a Nazi War Crimes prosecutor working for the Attorney General during the Carter and Reagan administrations, we used to use an immigration provision against organizations that advocate totalitarian states in America. Maybe it's time we started going after some of these extremist organizations the same way we went after the Nazis.