Hi Mike, Thanks for the nice welcome. The Bird at Warner Robins never was outfitted with the rockets. It is the second Bird. REad the following. Airframe #1 LOCKHEED # CS, Phase I [C.n.] # 4658 382 c-41 d A.F. Serial Number 74-1683, Airframe #1 Assigned to the 463 Tactical Air Wing Oct 1977 to Sept 1980. Modified to a YMC-130 H configuration for a rescue operation in Iran. With a C-141 in-flight refueling pod, DC-130 type radome. 30 Rockets total (ASROC engines provided by the Navy) pointing Forward and downward on the forward and rear fuselage. This was the first airframe modified. It was tested at Wagner not Duke field Eglin AFB. It flew approximately 4 test flights there. This aircraft crashed at a demonstration on Oct 29, 1980 with, The airframe was buried or shot up on the Eglin Range at Wagner field Eglin AFB after the crash. CS Phase II [C.n.] # 4669 382 c-41 d 74-1686 Airframe #2 Assigned to the 463 T A W September 1976 to 1980. Modified to Y M C-130 H. 4950 Tactical Air Wing November 1982 to October 1987. Modified for a rescue operation in Iran. Modified as 74-1683. This airframe was used for experimental testing purposes at Warner Robins AFB. These test provided the foundation and prototype testing for the Combat Talon II aircraft. This airframe was DE-modified and given to the Warner Robins museum in March 1988. This airframe had MK56 rockets bolted onto the forward fuselage. Used for Braking test only. [C.n.] # 4667 382 c-41 d 74-2065, Airframe #3 was Assigned to the 463 T A W Oct 1977 to Sept 1980. This airframe was never completely modified to YMC-130H configuration and was used as a test platform for form fit and function of parts. The Rockets were never fitted. This Airframe was DE-modified in November 1984 at Lockheed Ontario. Painted in Lizard Camouflage scheme February 1988. Oct. 1991 assigned to the 773AS to present day. Send me your address and I will send you a Credible Sport DVD and my partial CD Gratis.[color="#0000FF"][/color] Let me know if your friend finds any pics. I am building a HTTB kit as a testbed for the Horsals and Dorsals. I will send you a conversion kit as soon as it is completed. The Biggest hurdle is the DC-130 Nose. Dave Buttress sold it to ED Models was a shop that also had their own kit range called Airwaves - now owned and sold by Hannants. Some ex-DB parts came under this ownership but most were never released [among them, as DB has said is probably the nose master you seek]. They have ceased trading & Ed Deeley [ED] has retired. Your Nose Master has probably gone, as far as production is concerned. This is crazy. One would think the DC-130 Nose in 1/4 or 1/72 would sell. Why not offer it to Italerie as a resin part to include in the kit? I will continue ot push on and attempt to modify my airmodel one. I wish I had an In-country one or D.B. I have been searching fro a D.B. or In-country nose radome since 2000. and check ebay bi-weekly for one. Never found one. Contacted ever kit colelcter list etc. Frustrating. I am going ot scratch build the C-141 Refueling probe and everything else. Maybe we can work on this together. What do you think? Write me at crediblesport@yahoo.com Mike, Check out the progress on my HTTB conversion. In my Photo Bucket Account check under HTTB album for recent photos of my Scratch Built 1/72 scale C-130 Cockpit. I added a HUD display. Look Closely. http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee297/crediblesport/ The HTTB Nose Radome was cut down from a C-141 Nose Radome. I am presently carving the nose out of scrap sprue and super glue. After I get the nose radome carved out, I will line up the 3 three fuselage sections and glue them together. I added some wider stouter plastic sheet for the fuselage splice. Then add the Horsal and dorsals fins. The Dorsals fins are just .060 plastic sheets cut to shape. I cut a 3 3/4 inch slot along the aft fuselage section in line with the Horizontal stabilizer; where the dorsal fins will attach to the aft fuselage and Horizontal Stabilizers. I modified the Horsal Fin from my spare Airfix C-130 Rudder; then added scrap plastic and sprue to form a horsal fin. I will use this as a master to make a rubber mold and pour one out of resin. After which I need to carve a wider cord rudder. Maybe widen and build onto the existing rudder. Then add numerous fuselage details. I drilled 2 holes in the fuselage and wings for better wing support. I need to modify the wing leading and trailing edge. The leading edge has a camber to it. I plan to use some for of circle dowel of 1/2 3/4/ or 1/3 from Evergreen Plastic or Plastruct. Then I need to add about 1/8 inch or more to the trailing edge. The Ailerons and flaps are wider than on a stock c-130. Then I need to modify the engine Nacelles and propellers and other small items. After this Glue the whole thing together prime it and paint it Gloss black and flat black along the wing and fuselage walkways. I plant to use either white Decal stripes for the Lockheed insignia or print them on my printer. I Figure this should take 4 2-6 weeks to finish. Then I will start on my YMC-130 H Credible Sport conversion. Using the lessons learned from the HTTB conversion on the Credible Sport conversion. Maybe we can solve this together. Do you know anyone who has a 1/72 scale contrail or nova C-141 kit? Take Care Tim QUOTE Tim, First, welcome to ARC. It's a fun modeling site with plenty of info and friends. I'm also working on a 72 YMC-130H, albeit in the planning stages right now (got 2 B-66B's, 1 A3D-3, 1 S2F-3, 1 WF-2 {E-1B} and 1 OV-1B on the table right now, and an AC-119K for a former crewman coming up). I'm planning to do mine in 2 stages - I've got one of the old MPC/Airfix Herc's that's going to be my test bed, since its wings, nacelles and props are wrong, and an Italeri/Testors Herc that will end up being the final model. I wish there was a good DC-130 radome available, still, because I also have a DC-130A kit that I want to build correctly, and not as BuAer 158228 or 8229... I've looked long and hard at the Airmodel vac form, and I agree, there's too much wrong with it. (A pity, since Matthias is trying to get his kits to be more accurate) My plan was to carve one myself from blue foam, coated with a micro-balloon/epoxy mix (then make a mold for weighted resin). For the dorsal and horsal fins, I think sheet styrene sanded to profile ought to be fine, if a bit tedious. I haven't really thought about the rocket packs, tail hook or the refueling receptacle yet, though. I've got a friend at Hurlbert Field at Eglin who's promised to see if he can't find some pics of the bird, as well. Good luck! Mike