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      <title><![CDATA[Good Morning!
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">  
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</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Welcome to the dawn of a new day for
Mazurland Blog. We are pleased to announce <a
href="http://mazurland.typepad.com" target="NewWindow">our new
home</a>, with its minimally changed design (so far), but important new
additions. (Please update you "favorites" addresses") We are now using typepad
for software. The older iBlog program has served well, is user-friendly and is
recommended for Mac users. However, the new service allows posting from any
computer connected to the internet, as well as an integrated comments section.
More importantly, it allows multiple authors to help broaden the scope and
vibrancy of this site. </font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Initially, I
have invited two of our valued commenters, Marty and Paul, to author posts. This
will assure some consistency of political thought, as well as genetic material
for the time being. After all, we don't want to shock anyone's system! In short
order, we hope to invite authors with more "varied" opinions. However, since
this </font><font face="Helvetica-Bold"><b>is</b></font><font face="Helvetica">
"Mazurland", we may require future contributors to have at least 1/16th Mazur
DNA or be in a legally binding relationship with one of same. (Chad, this is
your cue to foster a "closer relationship" with one of
us).</font><br /><font face="Helvetica">This site will continue to be in
evolution....</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">On a personal note, I'd
like to thank ALL the commenters who have made this site spirited and kept me
motivated. Specifically, this includes Chad (who came out of nowhere and is
truly a valued presence) and Sarah (who is a special gift in a different way)
and David &amp; Amy (a beloved, but misguided pair) all of whom continue to
brave the Conservative onslaught of Marty and Paul and more recently, the
vivacious Becky.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">And I especially want
to thank my wife, Jamie and daughter, Anna who have allowed me more than enough
computer time to fiddle with posts and site design, which I previously knew very
little about.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Now, let the blogging
resume!</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 00:00:01 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Now I'm Depressed
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E1881172165/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">This judicial compromise may have ushered in an
era of mediocre reform and watered down ideology. Now there's talk of the same
group of moderates working on a <a
href="http://hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/052505/social.html"
target="NewWindow">Social Security compromise</a>. Does the election of
Republicans in the Senate, House and presidency speak nothing about Americans'
wishes?</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Ironically, today is the
anniversary of the opening of the Constitutional convention in 1787. A period
when brave men were forging the rules of a new, visionary
government.</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 11:58:16 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[The Good Old Days
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica"><a
href="http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050525/COL0202/505250324/1201"
target="NewWindow">This article</a> talks about the value of time away
from parents while growing up in past generations. Back then, it was more
possible for kids to explore on their own; discover new worlds, find limits,
work out differences, etc. Now it's much more likely for a child to be
supervised in all facets of his/her youth due to changes in child-rearing norms,
as well as the paucity of available areas for unsupervised exploration in
today's suburbs .</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Ahhh, the good old
days of starting fires, defacing property, throwing things at buses, derailing
trains......</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 11:41:36 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[The Judicial Reprieve
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E122141364/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">I'm still trying to work out my feelings about
the deal made by Senate moderates on Bush's judicial nominees. So much of how I
feel about it will depend on what happens in the future, which is difficult to
predict. Will Bush now nominate more "moderate" judges (unlikely)? Will the Dems
invoke the "extraordinary circumstances" clause (after they've just agreed to OK
three of the most controversial and vilified judges) on any future nominee with
conservative leanings? Will the Republican members of the "gang of 14" then have
the courage to nix the deal if a filibuster is
threatened?</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">One thing I can say is that
there is a certain sense of calm now that would not have been present if the
nuclear (constitutional) option had been triggered. If that had happened,
Republicans would now be in the midst of  a PR assault (by the Dems and the
press) the likes of which has not been seen since the Gingrich days. It would
affect my ability to sleep. So on the positive side, it looks like three of
Bush's most controversial nominees will now be appointed. As for the rest, only
time will tell.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">For additional
opinions, there are those that feel the deal <a
href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/lindachavez/printlc20050525.shtml"
target="NewWindow">was OK</a> for the GOP, <a
href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-5_25_05_TS.html"
target="NewWindow">bad </a>for the GOP or a <a
href="http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/May2005_3.html#jrm3282"
target="NewWindow">mixed bag</a>. Only time will tell.</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 10:07:19 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[In God We Trust
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E955586023/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica"> 
<img SRC="http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E955586023/Media/gwprayer2.jpg" height="250" width="180" alt="" /> 
</font><font face="Helvetica-Bold"><b>"Washington Prays At Valley
Forge"</b></font><br /><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">According to <a
href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0523/p02s02-uspo.html"
target="NewWindow">this article</a>, the next crusade against religious
symbols in the public square will target the words "In God We Trust"  on public
buildings, monuments and even currency. I don't think the general public is on
the side of say, the ACLU, but that hasn't stopped judges from legislating from
the bench in the past. The question is the intent of "separation of church and
state"; does it mean that government cannot impose religion or does it mean that
our religious heritage cannot be acknowledged in the public square? Many on the
Left believe the latter, and would have us go the route of secular Western
Europe where there is no room for God, let alone family. If only the Left could
do something about that pesky reference to the Creator in our Declaration of
Independence.</font><br /><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"The
words appear on every dollar bill and US coin. They are displayed at the
entrance to the US Senate and above the Speaker's chair in the
House.</i></font><br /><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>But when local
officials in North Carolina placed "In God We Trust" on the front of the
Davidson County Government Center, they soon found themselves in federal court
facing a complaint that they were violating the separation of church and
state."</i></font></div>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 10:53:18 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Let's Make A Deal
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E1802225653/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">Apparently, the Senate "moderates" have <a
href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050524/D8A9ETF00.html"
target="NewWindow">reached a deal</a> to prevent the enacting of the
"nuclear option". The Dems have agreed to allow an up-or-down vote on three of
Bush's current nominees and have promised not to filibuster future
judicial/Supreme Court nominees unless there are "extraordinary circumstances".
C'mon, when a Supreme Court seat is in the cards, "extraordinary" will mean
anyone to the right of Hillary.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">This is
purely a temporizing measure. We'll all be revisiting this when Bush nominates
an ideological conservative (as he should, and we know he will) for the next
Supreme vacancy. The good news is that a few more of Bush's appellate nominees
will now get approved. The bad news ,besides postponing the inevitable showdown,
is that people like McCain look like
heroes.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Many folks, like <a
href="http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010531.php" target="NewWindow">those
at Powerline</a>, think this was a bad compromise for the
GOP.</font><br /><br /></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"The claim by Senator Graham and others
that we need to get this issue behind us in order to proceed with the Senate's
business is laughable. The Democrats will be emboldened by this "compromise" and
will continue to obstruct. This Congress will accomplish little beyond what it
already has, and that isn't much.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Finally, and most importantly, the
president probably will be unable to get a Supreme Court Justice confirmed this
session unless he appoints a moderate. And barring Republican gains in 2006, he
probably will be unable to appoint a conservative Justice at all. Senator
Graham and his friends have likely given away one of the president's most
important powers -- the power to nominate Supreme Court Justices of his choosing
and get an up-or-down vote on them. I hope they enjoy the praise they are about
to get from the Washington Post and the New York Times."</i></font></div>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 06:04:23 -0400</pubDate>
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E897003424/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">I'm sure it happens, but I haven't really known
anyone who was once Conservative and changed to Liberalism. The downward drift
of Bush's popularity (mainly over the Iraq war) implies that this does occur,
but I just haven't seen much of it. One might give examples of David Brooks or
Andrew Sullivan as veering leftward, but I don't know them personally. On the
other hand, I've seen  first hand plenty of liberals become more conservative as
they accrue life experiences.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica"><a
href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/22/INGUNCQHKJ1.DTL"
target="NewWindow">This article</a> describes one such conversion.
Interestingly, it was written in San Francisco which certainly made his journey
that much more arduous.</font><br /><br /></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"I'm leaving the left -- more precisely,
the American cultural left and what it has become during our time
together.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>I choose this day for my departure
because I can no longer abide the simpering voices of self-styled progressives
-- people who once championed solidarity with oppressed populations everywhere
-- reciting all the ways Iraq's democratic experiment might yet
implode."</i></font></div>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 10:23:25 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Take The Test
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E1787258426/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">Here's <a
href="http://www.okcupid.com/politics" target="NewWindow">a neat
site</a> that assesses your political leanings. Turns out I'm a social and
economic conservative best described as a "Republican". No surprise, except I
came dangerously close to "Centrist".  Time to pick up a few Ann Coulter
books....</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 08:00:04 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Perspective II
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica"> Q: What is the difference between these two
pictures?</font><br /><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">
<img SRC="http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E666491656/Media/mass_graves.jpg" height="250" width="337" alt="" /> 
</font><br /><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica"> 
<img SRC="http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E666491656/Media/Saddam.jpg" height="250" width="200" alt="" /> 
</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">A: The first is a picture of relatives
searching for loved ones at the site of one of  many mass graves attributed to
Saddam Hussein, whose reign resulted in the torture and murder of hundreds of
thousands of Iraqis .</font><br /><font face="Helvetica">The second is a picture
Saddam getting dressed.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Apparently, the
second picture is the more newsworthy.</font></div>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 02:02:49 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[A Perspective On Judicial Filibusters
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E495410045/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">At contentious times such as these, it seems only
fair to step back and perform the mental exercise of trying to put yourself into
your opponents shoes as an attempt to understand their position. If we try to
see how we would react, were the tables reversed,  a better understanding and an
improved dialogue might occur.</font><br /><font face="Helvetica">I found such
an exercise at <a href="http://nationalreview.com/benchmemos/063778.asp"
target="NewWindow">National Review</a> online. Since it's relatively
brief, I'll post it in its entirety:</font><br /><br /></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"Imagine, if you will, that a Democrat
President nominated a judge whose constitutional and policy views were, by any
measure, on the extreme left fringes of American society.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Let’s assume, for example, that
this nominee had expressed strong sympathy for the position that there is a
constitutional right to prostitution as well as a constitutional right to
polygamy.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Let’s say, further, that he had
attacked the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts as organizations that perpetuate
stereotyped sex roles and that he had proposed abolishing Mother’s Day and
Father’s Day and replacing them with a single androgynous Parent’s
Day.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>And, to get really absurd, let’s
add that he had called for an end to single-sex prisons on the theory that if
male prisoners are going to return to a community in which men and women
function as equal partners, prison is just the place for them to get prepared to
deal with women.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Let’s further posit that this
nominee had opined that a manifest imbalance in the racial composition of an
employer’s work force justified court-ordered quotas even in the absence
of any intentional discrimination on the part of the employer. But then, lo and
behold, to make this nominee even more of a parody of an out-of-touch leftist,
let’s say it was discovered that while operating his own office for over a
decade in a city that was majority-black, this nominee had never had a single
black person among his more than 50 hires.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Imagine, in sum, a nominee whose record
is indisputably extreme and who could be expected to use his judicial role to
impose those views on mainstream America. Surely such a person would never be
nominated to an appellate court. Surely no Senate Democrat would support someone
with such extreme views. And surely Senate Republicans, rather than deferring to
the nominating power of the Democrat President, would pull out all
stops—filibuster and everything—to stop such a
nominee.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Well, not quite. The hypothetical nominee
I have just described is, in every particular except his sex, Ruth Bader
Ginsburg at the time she was nominated to the Supreme Court in
1993.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>President Clinton nominated Ruth Bader
Ginsburg on June 22, 1993. A mere six weeks later, on August 3, 1993, the Senate
confirmed her nomination by a 96-3 vote.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>(The source for the information in the
second through fourth paragraphs is “Report of Columbia Law School Equal
Rights Advocacy Project: The Legal Status of Women under Federal Law,”
co-authored by Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Brenda Feigen Fasteau in September 1974.
The information in the fifth paragraph can be found in the transcript of
Ginsburg’s confirmation hearing.)"</i></font></div>
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">Unfortunately, during a huge military operation
involving half a million American soldiers, this kind of crap happens. A <a
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/international/asia/20abuse.html?ex=1117166400&amp;en=de1db4c5831657e2&amp;ei=5070"
target="NewWindow">huge NY Times article</a>  documents the deaths of 2
Afghan prisoners being interrogated by US forces nearly three years ago. You
will notice that the information came from military files related to internal
military investigation and discipline. No coverup was occurring. Now this story
will be amplified and used against the US military here and abroad. It will be
implied that this is how we always operate. It will energize the insurgents and
promote new recruits. More deaths of US soldiers and Iraqis will
ensue.</font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica">Why can't the Times temper this
with a few in-depth stories about the abuse and murder of US soldiers and Iraqi
citizens at the hands of the insurgents? The hundreds of thousands who have died
under Saddam and the mass graves that have been found since US forces entered
Iraq? The "honor killings" of Islamic women in Iraq and abroad? About the
culture of intolerance and civil rights abuses that these folks wish to impose?
About the dedication and commitment of US soldiers and families? Is balance and
perspective too much to ask for? Apparently, certain news is just not "fit to
print".</font></div>
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      <title><![CDATA[Weekend Viewing
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica"><a
href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak19.html"
target="NewWindow">This should be good</a>. Howard Dean is to be
interviewed by Tim Russert on Sunday's "Meet The Press". Dean thus far has been
a godsend for the GOP; alienating more people than he "energizes", calling
Republicans "liars" and "evil". This coincides with a <a
href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1399139/posts"
target="NewWindow">precipitous drop</a> in contributions to the DNC. 
Even the liberal Barney Frank thinks he should <a
href="http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=83581"
target="NewWindow">put a muzzle on it</a>. Keep it up Howard,
please!</font><br /><br /></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"Accordingly, anticipation of Dean on
''Meet the Press'' Sunday is unsettling for the party's faithful. This will be
his first exposure as chairman on a major network interview, and Russert
predictably will be well-prepared with a rap sheet of the chairman's verbal
assaults. The prospect that Dean will make juicy additions to that collection
unnerves Democrats."</i></font></div>
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      <title><![CDATA[Elections Do Matter
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">Rather than whining and obstructing and trying to
change traditional Senate practices, the Democrats need to look at themselves
and ask "Why are we becoming less popular?" and "What are WE doing
wrong?"</font><br /><font face="Helvetica">They also need to realize that <a
href="http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20050518-093636-3041r.htm"
target="NewWindow">elections have
consequences</a>.</font><br /><font face="Helvetica">That being said, it
doesn't look like the <a
href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/blog_11_8_04.html"
target="NewWindow">2006 elections</a> will provide huge swings, one way
or another, in the Senate makeup.</font><br /><br /></div>
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      <link>http://homepage.mac.com/mazurs/iblog/C1548237657/E1423914796/index.html</link>
      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">I have not commented yet on the erroneous
Newsweek story (since retracted) which claimed that US interrogators defaced the
Koran, mainly because the sloppy and clearly biased journalism was so, well...,
predictable. The main difference in this instance was that people lost their
lives in the subsequent protests, which I guess should have prompted a blog
post. <a
href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0505180150may18,0,7153551.story?coll=chi-newsopinioncommentary-hed"
target="NewWindow">This story</a> makes a valid point about how Islamic
extremists don't really need an excuse to kill. If it's not the Newsweek piece,
there's always some other reason. This fact gives Newsweek an out, sort of.
There's still the issue of which Islamic killings they choose to
cover...</font><br /><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"The apparent
Newsweek mistake was regrettable, but we should beware of allowing ourselves to
mirror the emotional reactions of people who were by no measure justified in
their response--even if the story had been proven
true.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>The same people
foaming over a reported act of blasphemy didn't flinch while executing women for
stepping outside sans burqa. I'm afraid my moral outrage in favor of the morally
outrageous is tapped
out.</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>While the world was
reacting in righteous indignation to the Newsweek report, another story was
circulating about Turkish women in Germany being executed by family members in
"honor killings" sanctioned by certain interpretations of the Koran. Their
offense? Acting like Western women. Or, in the pithy words of a 14-year-old
Turkish boy who was justifying an execution: "The whore lived like a
German."</i></font><br /><br /><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Before the good
Muslim world objects, let me assert what shouldn't need saying: Islam isn't the
problem here. The problem is ignorance and the right-wing Islamist faction that
will use the Koran for its purposes, whether to incite a riot or murder a woman
who refuses to wear her headscarf. The enemy is extremism."</i></font></div>
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      <description> <![CDATA[ <br> <div><font face="Helvetica">Our experience with Western Europe have been a
little tense lately, to put it mildly. We may have a <a
href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/17/wfran17.xml&amp;sSheet=/news/2005/05/17/ixnewstop.html"
target="NewWindow">common ground</a> on which to improve
relations.</font><br /><br /></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>"Typically, the French refuse to accept
what arrogant, overbearing monsters they are.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>But now after the publication of a survey
of their neighbours' opinions of them at least they no longer have any excuse
for not knowing how unpopular they are.</i></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica-Oblique"><i>Why the French are the worst company on
the planet, a wry take on France by two of its citizens, dredges up all the
usual evidence against them. They are crazy drivers, strangers to customer
service, obsessed by sex and food and devoid of a sense of
humour."</i></font></div>
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