The Harris Newmark
Family 1913-1993
EIGHTY MORE YEARS
IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

From Left to Right:
Elizabeth Levi Lissner, Fannie
Emily Nordlinger
Abrams, Harris Newmark, Jr.
In 1993 a book was written to chronicle the eighty years after the
publication of Harris Newmark's "My Sixty Years in Southern California
1853-1913."Oral histories were taken of three members of the Newmark
family who were living in 1913, Elizabeth Levi Lissner (my aunt), Harris
Newmark, Jr., and Fannie Emily Nordlinger Abrams. All are now diseased.
The following are the oral histories, which were in the book.
Elizabeth Levi Lissner, born in 1902, is the senior member of the
Newmark clan, and seen by many as a shining example of what it means to
"age gracefully:' Liz, as she is known by most, is the daughter of Rose
Loeb Levi and Herman Levi, and the granddaughter of Estelle Newmark Loeb and
Leon Loeb, Liz's vivid memories not only of past information about the family,
but also current facts, is a wonderful contribution to the family history.
Elizabeth, let's talk about your
earliest memories.
I remember when I was
around 4 or 5, we lived
on Lake Street, near MacArthur Park, and the whole
family lived all around there. My grandparents,
Estelle and Leon Loeb, lived on Westlake and the
Loews lived on Alvarado. I remember when my
mother's cousin, Rose Loew Nordlinger, got married.
They had a big old house that belonged to the senior
Nordlingers on 9th Street across from where the
offices for the Catholic Church are now. We all used
to walk around and see each other. There were a lot
of children in the family, most of whom were
younger than I. I was the oldest great-grandchild,
since I was born in 1902. The next one was my
brother, John, who was born in 1905. Then came my
brother, Leon, who was born in 1907, and so was my
mother's first cousin. Nick Newmark. My last
brother, Richard, wasn't born until 1917.We had a nurse who came
when I was five weeks old and left when I was 23. She raised all four of us.
Her name was Marie Sturtevant. She was an American, from
New England. She was with my parents until she got sick and
practically died. I was 23 and married when she left.
What else do you remember about your life then?
It was a nice two-story house. I went to Hoover Street School,
which was at 9th and Hoover, and I loved school. John and Leon went there, too.
Richard is 15 years younger than I am, so he was practically like my own child.
I married for the first time when he was about four, but I've always been close
to him. He lives in La Quinta and I talk to him every week. He's the only one
left. My other two brothers are gone. I was closer to John than to Leon.
Did your mother or grandmother cook?
No, neither could boil water. I'm the cook in
the family. I liked it. I taught myself. We always had help in our
house. We had Marie, the nurse, and we always had a cook who I guess did
housework. I guess Marie did the upstairs and took care of all our stuff. And
the cook cooked and did downstairs.
They used to wait on table. My mother always had
two in help in her house and they both lived in our large,
two-story home.
What do you remember about your brothers when they were young?
John was a nice kid, but I don't remember
much about him until he went to college. He went to
Stanford. He used to bring kids home and we had
lots of fun. I was married by then because I married
when I was 18. I didn't have any sense. I was like all the rest of
the kids. John was a good golfer and so was I. I never played with him,
although we both belonged to Hillcrest.(* John LeviÕs handicap was an 8, and
Liz played to a 13)
John was very active at Cedars. He was the financial secretary on
their board. He used to be at the hospital practically every day. That's when
it was on Fountain. I don't know if he was still living when they moved to the
new building. I think he may have given it up. He got sick. He had cancer and
he was sick for a few years. I don't remember when he quit.He was very active
in Cedars and 1 guess that's why John, Jr. is so involved with charities.
John, Jr. is very interested in the Jewish Home for the Aging, as you know.
Leon had bright red hair, the only one in our
family. They called him Red and he was a lawyer.
He married Dorothy Bachman and she died at 32,
when Pat was 10. The little boy, Doug, was only
four. Leon remarried when Pat was about 11 or 12.
The stepmother is still alive. Leon died about three
or four years ago. He was a big smoker and he died
of emphysema. They lived in Palm Springs. The
second wife was also Dorothy. We called the first
one Dottie and the second one Dee. I didn't see
much of Leon. He went to college when I was
young. They used to bring boys home for holidays
and weekends.
I remember when Leon went to work for Loeb
and Loeb as a lawyer and they used to represent
Max Factor. The Max Factors were crazy about
Leon. They hired him to leave Loeb and Loeb and
become one of their executives. He was there for 20
years. I never saw much of him during the time he
was at
Factor's
During World War II, by the way, my husband,
Louis, who had his own practice, was a partner
of Lester Roth, who's a California justice.
During the Depression things were tough and
Louis helped get Lester Roth a judgeship. His
father was in politics and so he was able to help him. During the
war Loeb and Loeb were short of lawyers, and they represented all the movie
studies in those days. They asked Louis to come there. He gave up his own
practice and became a partner. He was there for many years.
What else do you recall about your brothers?
I think we mostly fought as children. I used to
do a lot of fighting with my brothers. I remember in
1912 my parents took us to Europe with another
couple of friends of theirs, who also had two boys.
There were five little kids all around the same age,
except Leon was a little younger. But the other
three boys were all about my age. Their name was
Meyer. We were in Europe for six months and they
teased me unmercifully. I remember lots about the
trip but what I mostly remember is how the three of
them would gang up on me. Of course, the Meyer
boys were my good friends for life, but they died.
Their parents and mine were best friends.
Leon was an amateur ham radio guy with a number, and he had a
radio station in my mother's attic on St. AndrewÕs. The maids' rooms were up
there, too. He used to do Morse code. He kept that for many years.
I notice that some of the cousins in your great grandparentÕs
generation married each other.
Yes, that happened in the older generations.
That was because they didn't have anybody else in
those days. This was a very small town. And San
Francisco wasn't much bigger. Harris Newmark
married his first cousin, Sarah, who had come
around the Horn to get to San Francisco with her
family. I think there were either three or four girls in their
family. Two or three of them married cousins. ThatÕs why they lost so many
children, I think. They used to die of diphtheria. My grandmother, Estelle
Loeb, lost two children from it. She had five.
What were the names of her children?
George, who was born in 1880 died early. My
mother Rose was the next. She was born in 1881.
Then came Joe, in 1883, then Edwin, in 1886.
Harold, who was born in 1893, was the baby. Edwin
used to tease my grandmother about Harold, and I
remember she didn't like it very much. We'd be at
the dinner table and he'd say something about my
little brother Harold, and I remember she'd say, "Oh
Edwin!"
As I said, everybody lived near everybody.
When I was a child we used to walk to Aunt Emily
Loew's house, which was a block away from us, on Alvarado. We even
walked to Rose Nordlinger's, on West 9th. That was the furthest. Rose Loew
married a man named Louis Nordlinger. He owned a jewelry store that
subsequently became the second best jewelry store in Los Angeles. Then he
retired. I remember going to their store when I was a little kid. It was on
Broadway near 6th. In fact, whenever we went downtown we'd meet my mother or my
mother would meet her relatives or friends at Nordlinger's. Their
children were Fannie Emily and Louis, Jr. Fannie Emily hated her name so she
changed it to Fen (the initials of her first, middle and last name) when she
was a teenager. I was her big cousin and I guess she looked up to me and I
always loved her a lot. And we all were devoted to her grandmother, Emily, who
was very different than my grandmother.
What was Los Angeles like then?
It didn't go much beyond Vermont Avenue;
Hoover Street school was on 9th and Hoover, and
there was a streetcar that ran out 9th street and
when it got to Vermont it turned around and came
back. Later on, when I was a teenager, I guess, it
went further to Western Avenue. There were farms
and small homes out there, I guess. My father got a car when I was
about six or seven, one of the first automobiles, a Duro. We use to go on rides
on Sundays. We'd ride to Santa Monica and Venice, but you had to go out
Washington Boulevard to get there. Wilshire and the other streets weren't open.
Once we got stuck there. There'd been rain, and Washington is very low. The
roads were all dirt, and out around where the Marina is now it flooded a bit.
There were hardly any cars in those days. We got stuck in the
mud and someone had to come and pull us out.
My great-grandparents, Harris and Sarah Newmark, had a house on
Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica on the corner of Arizona and Ocean Avenue. They
used to go down there every summer, and it was a trip to go down there. The Red
Car did go, but you had to go downtown to get the Red Car. It went out Venice
Boulevard to Venice and then back to Santa Monica. My great-grandfather had an
automobile and I remember going down there for a drive with him. We drove to
Brentwood and back
What do you remember about
your great-grandparents?
I don't remember much about my great-
grandmother Sarah. My only recollection is seeing
her sitting and knitting. She used to knit and so do I. She died
when I was about eight, in 1910.I remember going to their house often. And I
vaguely remember their golden wedding celebration, probably because I've seen
pictures of the flowers and the gifts they got. My great grandfather lived until
I was 13, so I remember him. He seemed to be a nice man. The last few years he
was sick and he had a male nurse who lived with him. Everyone in the family
kowtowed to Harris. The folks used to go there one night a week to keep him
company. He liked to play cards. It was sort of a command performance. He was
an old man. In those days if you were 60 you were antiquated, and he was
only 70-something when he died. At that point he lived with the senior Loew's
on Alvarado Street.
Most of what I know about my great- grandparents is what's in the
book, ÒSixty Years in Southern California.Ó I do know they took my mother to
Europe in 1899, before she was married. She had a wonderful time. My mother had
French relatives because my grandfather, Leon Loeb, was French. I never knew my
French great-grandparents, whose names were Jacob and Rosalie Levy Loeb. I know
they lived in Strasbourg. There was a nephew of my father's who was a soldier
in World War I and my mother and father sort of kept up with him.
Lets talk about your grandparents, Estelle and Leon Loeb.
I don't think my grandmother Estelle was very bright because she
wasn't well-educated and she married at 16. My mother was a very bright woman,
and Joe and Edwin Loeb were very bright men-college graduates. In those days
not everybody went to college. But my grandmother, she was crotchety.I only
remember that she didn't get along with everybody in our family. She used to
come to dinner all the time at my mother's and half the time she'd gc home mad
about something. And it wasn't really anything that any of us did. The only one
that teased her was my Uncle Edwin. I remember she interfered with my mother
and it used to bother her. She use to tell her what to do and if I remember
right, she used to try to remind her of what her duty was to other family
members. She used to come to our house after I was married to Louis in 1932. I
didn't have much trouble with her, but she criticized everything. I remember
that she was difficult. She lived until 1937.
What about *Leon, your grandfather?
He was darling, but he died when I was a little
girl. He was a very sweet, quiet man. I don't remember too much
more about him.
*Leon Loeb had been born in the French city of Strassburg, and
came to Los Angeles in 1866. In 1879 he married Estelle Newmark,daughter of the
Harris Newmarks.Leon Loeb worked in Solomon Lazard's dry goods store for a
time, and later was a partner
in the same firm which was then called the City of Paris store. He
was very active in Jewish and fraternal life. Loeb succeeded his relative,
Eugene Meyer, as the French consular agent of Los Angeles in 1883, serving
until 1898, when he resigned because of the attitude of the French government
in the Dreyfus case (The American Israelite, Cincinnati, October 13, 1898, p.
3).
Do you know what kind of work he did?
I think he might have worked for Harris
Newmark, who had a lot of property, downtown and
in Montebello-all of which has been sold. He was in
what they used to call the mercantile business. I
guess it was retail stuff. And then there was MA.
Newmark Company, a wholesale grocer. He was a
cousin. He has a bunch of relatives who are friends
of mine that lived here, but they're not closely
related to us. They were close relatives of my great-grandparents
and they were in businesses together.My grandfather Leon also was French consul
in L.A.at one time.
What can you tell me about your great-uncle, Marco?
He was a darling man. He got very hard of
hearing towards the end of his life, but he had a
wonderful sense of humor and Nick is just like him.
Everybody loves Nick. He's very funny about
himself. He thinks he's old and decrepit, and he's
younger than I am. He's my mother's first cousin. I
kid him about being the older generation all the
time. I see him a lot because we go to lunch together about once a
month.
What can you remember about Ella Newmark Seligman?
She married Carl Seligman. I liked him. I can
remember being a little kid and going to see him
when he was dying. He had cancer, but it wasn't
mentioned in the family. Ella had three daughters
There was a Lottie, who died in a menta institution,
and Ruth, who married a fellow named Hirschfeld
and had two daughters,and Rosalie Jacoby, who had
several children. But I've lost track of all of them.
Maurice Newmark, who was called M.H.,was the oldest son, and also
worked at M.A.Newmark & Company. He was a stamp collector; he had a
fabulous stamp collection. I never knew much about it, except that he had it,
but I know it sold for a large sum of money after he died. He had a
daughter,Florence Kauffman and she had two sons, Steven and Richard. I think
Richard is still around. He lives in San Francisco. Maurice was married to Aunt
Rosie, and she was a cousin-also a Newmark. She lived to be an old lady. She
was a fragile little old lady and very sweet. She used to invite us for dinner.
I always liked her. We used to make fun of her, because she was kind of prissy,
but she was cute. She had a sister, Emma, whose daughter was one of my best
friends. Emma married a man named Goldschmidt. They had two daughters and I was
raised with them. One of them lived up at the corner and died about 8-10 years
ago. We were very close friends.IÕve lived here 37 years. And she lived here
before I did.
Is there anything else you recall
about Emily and Jacob Loew?
We loved them. They were our favorites.Uncle Jake died when he was
not too old.Aunt Emily lived on for a while and she lived with her daughter,
Rose Nordlinger, and we lived on Irving and they lived on Lorraine, a block
over. We used to go over there all the time. We were very close to them. She
was darling and I loved her. She was the one that got my mother into Christian
Science.
What was Santa Monica like when you went to visit your
great-grandparents?
It was beautiful, just houses along Ocean Avenue, and the
streetcar ran across the street, along Ocean Avenue. You could pick up the
streetcar and it went all the way to Venice and came to town on Venice
Boulevard.
Do you remember how long that trip would take?
About an hour, I guess. You ended up downtown and then to get to
where we lived, you had to transfer to a yellow car. Those were electric
trolleys. They had a thing that went up over to the wires. There was a conductor
and a motorman. The conductor took the money and the motorman ran the car.
Do you remember many horses drawing carts or wagons?
We had a Chinese vegetable man who had a horse pulling his
vegetable wagon. I remember getting fruit off his wagon. He'd come up and down
the streets. And also the iceman used to come with a horse. He used some tongs
to pick up a huge cube
of ice and he used to sling it over his shoulder to
carry the ice in and put it in the icebox on the
back porch.
What else do you remember about your home?
I always had my own room. I think the boys slept in the same room,
but I don't remember. When we got to St. Andrew's it was a bigger house. When I
was 15, Richard was born, and John was 12 and Leon,10.
Did you graduate from high school?
Yes, I went to Berendo Junior High and then Girl's Collegiate, a
private school, on the corner of Adams and Hoover Avenue. At the start of World
War I, we had a car and driver, but the driver went into the Army during the
war.My mother used to drive the car, but she would let me take it to school
sometimes, so I didn't have to take the streetcar because it was far. When the
war was over she got a driver again. In the meantime she and I both
drove. I was 13 when my father taught me to drive. I vaguely remember
being in Santa Monica and learning to drive.
Was it the kind of car you had to crank?
No. I never cranked a car. It had a self-starter. It was a
five-passenger touring car. When it rained they had glass windows that came
down the sides and screwed in. Then around 1915, we got a sedan.
What do you remember about Steve Loew, Senior?
He was darling. He was the last one to die of that group. He was
the youngest. He was loads of fun. When I was a kid he lived on Alvarado and I
lived on Lake. He was quite a bit older than I. He was a wild kid. I remember
seeing him on the roof of their house. He used to drive a fast car and he was
kind of a frisky young man, but then he got married at 21 and settled down. He
had three sons, Steve, Jack and Robert. He always was fun, up to the day he
died. He had a good sense of humor. He kept my father young, because they were
in business together.
Where did your father come from?
From Stuttgart, Germany. When we went there in
1912 he had a mother living, my grandmother, and a sister. His
sister was married to a man named Eiseman, and they had two sons. The younger
one (Max) came over after the war and lived with my parents for quite a
long while, until he was on his
feet. Then he moved to San Francisco and he died there, but
he wasn't so terribly old.
How did your parents meet?
It was all through family. My father was working for his uncle,
Mr. Loew, who was married to my mother's aunt. My father always knew my mother,
even when she was a little girl. He came here when he was 15, and they didn't
get married until he was 30. He must have known her for a long time. But it was
a big romance; they loved each other a lot. As far as I knew it was a very good
marriage. But in those days everybody stayed married.
Was your family religious?
When I was a child my grandmother and I guess my great-grandmother
used to go to what used to be called B'nai B'rith, but is now Wilshire
Boulevard Temple. It was the only Reform temple in Los Angeles. It was on 9th
and Hope in those days. I remember sitting near the front. Everybody had their
own seats. They'd buy seats and have their name on them. I went to Sunday
school. I used to go on Saturday mornings with my grandmother.
I don't remember that my mother always went,
but she was active at the temple. They had a sewing
group that used to sew for the orphanages and
Kaspare Cohn Hospital, which became Cedars-Sinai.
Then, it was just a little hospital in Boyle Heights.
The sewing group used to make shirts and shorts and pajamas for
the children at the Jewish Orphan's Home of Los Angeles. When they moved to
Motor Avenue, they called it Vista Del Mar. I always volunteered there. I
worked in the office there for about 20 years, two or three days a week. That's
my interest, not so much anymore, because I don't do anything any more. I
remember my mother sewed at the temple every Tuesday. Finally, during World War
II, they became a Red Cross unit and they did whatever the Red Cross gave them
to do. After that they sort of disbanded. The hospital didn't want stuff
anymore and Vista Del Mar had gotten too big.
Who was the rabbi at the temple?
It was Rabbi Hecht. I was confirmed there. My brothers didn't want
to go to Sunday school, so
they didn't. When I was about 16 Rabbi Magnin came to be Rabbi
Hecht's assistant, and his first cousin was my best friend. Her name was
Siegel. They owned a store named Meyer Siegel. She just died about a year ago.
We were best friends all our lives. They lived next door to us. Her mother was
Rabbi Magnin's aunt, a daughter of I. Magnin from the department store family.
Rabbi Magnin came from San Francisco and was a grandson of I. Magnin. Everyone
loved him; he was an earthy man, lots of fun.
In later years my husband and I became very close to the Magnins.
We used to have lunch together every Saturday at Hillcrest Country Club, along
with about 5-6 other people, until he died. We joined the group when some of
the people got old and got out or died. Edgar Magnin liked my husband, and we
knew him from the club, and he asked if we'd like to come for Saturday lunch.
My husband was a lawyer in Loeb and Loeb, the law firm owned by my uncles, Joe
and Edwin, and one of the other partners, Walter Hillborn, used to go to lunch.
He was an Easterner from Boston, and a Harvard graduate.
When you lived at home, did you celebrate Jewish holidays?
Not really. We knew when they were and when I was a little kid we
used to go to temple on the Jewish holidays, but I celebrate them much more now
than I did then. My husband was very un-Jewish. We didn't belong to the temple
until he got very friendly with Rabbi Magnin, and it was a friendship. Magnin
got him to join the temple.
As far as religion, my mother was a Christian Scientist. She was a
diabetic late in her life, like her mother was, and she never went to a doctor.
But when she got sick and they couldn't control her blood sugar, we made her go
to the doctor. They had no history of her illness so they couldn't get it
straightened out. She had to have some surgery and she died.
How did she become a Christian Scientist?
Aunt Emily Loew was a Christian Scientist, and someway or other
she got my mother into it. I didn't know about it-I was just a kid. I think she
was having a nervous breakdown after Richard was born and the doctor wanted her
to go away from home and she didn't want to go so she took up Christian
Science. And she didn't go away from home. And she never went to a doctor. She
was healthy until she had the diabetes problem. There was no conversion to
Christian Science-she just went to church. No one thought anything of it in
those days
Did the rest of the family go to doctors?
Yes, we all did.
Did she want you not to go?
Of course, but we did anyway. We didn't have any problem over it;
we just went. I was married and had kids of my own. I was 15 when she went into
Science. I used to go to church with her sometimes to keep her company.
What was the appeal of Christian Science to Reform Jews?
It was a good religion. The medical part I
don't think was so great, but the people who
believed in it believed in it. My niece, Pat Isaacs, is a
Christian Scientist. She's done well with it and she's married to a doctor,
which is peculiar, but she's raised all five of her kids in Science.
If I didn't know as much as I know about the
Science religion, I probably wouldn't be religious at all. That's
the only thing that makes me Jewish. The Science that I got from my mother,
that I know. They teach you to think positively and not to let evil into your
thinking, a lot of good stuff. If I didn't know that I wouldn't be a very good
Jew. I consider myself being a good Jewess because I go to temple and I do what
I'm supposed to do, but I don't think the way the service is at temple.
So your grandmother was more involved in temple?
Not really later in her life, but the family's life
sort of revolved around the temple, because everyone in the temple
knew each other.
When would your extended family get together?
We never could all get together. There's one
picture of some sort of gathering at the Loew's
house, after my great-grandmother died. It might
have been my great-grandfather's 70th or 75th
birthday. I remember that occasion. I must have been about 12, so
it was around 1914. Otherwise there were too many of us to all get together. We
used to get together with the Loew's and Nordlinger's a lot, because those were
my mother's closest relatives, and my dad being at the mill, he was close to
Steve Loew, and Rose Nordlinger was my mother's first cousin, so they were very
close.
What did you do for recreation?
We used to play in the street and in the yard, and we went to the
park with Marie, our housekeeper. The street used to get muddy when it rained
and then we couldn't go out unless we had rubbers on. I remember the Banning
boy and the Taylor boy and our kids playing baseball and football in the street
They were a little older than my brothers, but they used to come over there,
they were good friends, and they'd throw a football around. I remember we had
stuff in our backyard to play with. We had a cement place in front of the
garage. We had a picnic out there one day. A bunch of us were going on a picnic
and it rained, so we had the picnic in the backyards.
Was it a big deal when they started paving the streets?
I don't remember. The freeways were a big deal, but that wasn't
long ago. The Santa Monica Freeway was built since we lived here. The San Diego
too.
Would you go to the San Fernando Valley?
We used to go to Encino, Laurel Canyon and other places in the
Valley on picnics, because the Jansses had a big ranch out there and I think
our mill used to buy wheat from them or something. They started Westwood. We
thought Encino was way away from here and it took all day to go to Santa
Barbara. Now you can go up for lunch and come home.
How would you get to Santa Barbara?
We went to Hollywood and through Cahuenga
Pass and out through the valley. It was a two-lane
highway, the same as the freeway is now, except we
used to have to go on Ventura Boulevard until we
got to the highway. Ventura was just a little narrow
street.
Did many people live in the Valley?
The first person I knew who lived in the Valley was after
Universal City was built, in the 1930s. We had a nanny, a Scotswoman who took
care of my husband's sister and brother when they were children. When they were
grown, Nursie was still around and so was her sister, both retired, and they
owned a little house in the valley, near Universal. The freeway went in right
behind their house. By that time they were in their 80s and both of them had to
be taken out and put in homes. Nursie used to stay with our kids so we could
get away once in a while.
When I was a teenager and my brothers were
in college we used to drive to San Francisco for
football games and we used to make it in two days.
We stayed overnight in Santa Maria or Paso Robles.
There was a hotel there.
It was just rural scenery like it is now where it's not built up.
Today it's practically built all the way. My husband's father used to say,
before we ever dreamed of it being like it is now, that someday it's going to
be one big city all the way up and down the coast. We thought he was crazy, but
it is. I drive to La Costa a lot because that's where my grandson lives, and
it's off the San Diego freeway.
What would the family do in the summer?
We used to rent a house in Venice for a
month or two in the summer. My dad would take
the streetcar to work every day. It took about an
hour or so.
What was Venice like then?
Very much like it is today on those little streets
that go up from the ocean front, except there
weren't the mobs of people, except on Sundays.
Kaspare Cohn and his daughter and son-in-law had a
big house on the corner of Ocean Front and Sunset
Avenue. We used to spend a lot of time there on
Sundays and holidays looking out the window and
watching the people walk by. Where we lived was up
the street and there was no street in front of our
house-just a sidewalk. It was above the Speedway,
between there and the streetcar tracks.
Do you remember the canals in Venice?
They were in the area that's now the Marina.
remember them. There are still some there. There
were a few gondola rides but I don't remember
anyone we knew going around the canals. There was
a roller coaster at the top of Windward Avenue,
called Race Through the Clouds. We went there
when we were young kids. There was also an Ocean
Park pier and Venice pier with amusements and a
dance hall.
Did you spend most of your time in Venice Beach?
Yes, right on the beach. Then we used to go
to the Venice pier and ride on the merry-go-round a
lot. They had games there, too. The Japanese used
to have ball games where you threw the ball and got
prizes. My mother had all kinds of china stuff that
she won on the piers at Venice in the summer.
You'd pay a dime and roll your ball and add your
score, and when you had your score there'd be a big
platter up there, it would be like 500 points, and
she'd save her points and get these platters. I had a bunch of
them but they're all gone. It was good Oriental pottery-Imari and stuff like
that that today is priceless.
Did the rest of your family go to the beach,too?
Everybody went to the beach. They used to
take houses. After my great-grandfather died the
house on Ocean Avenue belonged to his five
children. They'd take it each summer in turn. One
year it would be my grandmother's turn. My mother
took it one time. Aunt Emily used to take the Loew
family. It was a big house with room for the kids.
There were steps down to the beach across the
street. It was great for kids.
I remember begging the family not to sell that