"Everything, and I mean everything I knew was wrong. Everything." --
Mike Flores
FLORES: ... The McCarthy era is the
bedrock of many people's beliefs- for liberals exposure to the era is often when
they decide to become liberals. So there is this feeling if they read what
really happened, pretty much their entire belief system
collapses...
... I fail to see how you can
take one case of manipulation of our reality as bona fide but a different
version of the McCarthy Era- can't be trusted.
=============================First
page of his Blog here
Snip:To
my friends on the left- I do not agree with Anne Coulter's new look at
McCarthy- she only knows half the story. But there are going to be some
difficult revelations here, for both sides. Many are still difficult for
me.To my friends on the
right- the Democrats can not be blamed for the view they have of the period.
THEY NEVER KNEW THE FACTS. Neither did the
conservatives.Thus begins
this experiment. In coming weeks we are going to look at the 1950's and the
effect the "red scare era" had on life, the media and resonates to
today.=====================Interview
On McCarthy EraAbove
Classified remains the only website that has interviewed me on The CIA
revelations on Joseph McCarthy. Here is an unedited new interview you might like
to read.
QUESTION: Have the release of
the CIA FAMILY JEWELS file made your pointing to the CIA report of what really
happened with Joe McCarthy any easier? Has the press or military historians
asked for your take on the CIA
report?
FLORES: No! Not at all. The
McCarthy era is the bedrock of many people's beliefs- for liberals exposure to
the era is often when they decide to become liberals. So there is this feeling
if they read what really happened, pretty much their entire belief system
collapses. Conservatives like Ann Coulter who defend McCarthy never ask
questions like, who gave McCarthy the names? The CIA admissions I think must be
taken into account in history. In fact, they override all that was before. Just
as The Family Jewels files makes it clear that leading liberals used the CIA and
looked the other way when it broke its charter- those stories have been told by
some media but not others.
What really gets me is when
people quote from incidents in the Family Jewels files but refuse to even read
the CIA file on McCarthy and what they did to him. I fail to see how you can
take one case of manipulation of our reality as bona fide but a different
version of the McCarthy Era- can't be
trusted.
QUESTION: Did you try to reach
out to people on the McCarthy
era?
FLORES: When I started writing
about what I had found out I was overwhelmed with hate mail, threats, libels, I
actually had people who had seen my plays write that I wasn't a playwright, I
was making it all up. Talk about black propaganda ops! These were people who
knew I had done plays but were trying to keep people from reading what I was
saying. I posted recently at a bulletin board my material on McCarthy and could
not believe the attacks aimed at me. I was told I wasn't a DJ, I had never done
comedy with Del Close, I had never dated celebrities, I had never worked in film
and theatre, and the campaign against me for linking to the CIA website became
very surrealistic. They couldn't attack the CIA admissions, so they went after
the messenger. People were posting physical threats against me and the
moderators didn't think that was important enough to stop. Libel, slander,
everything but answering the CIA
admissions.
One college professor I
approached I spoke to about using the CIA files to examine how our popular and
artistic culture were manipulated by the CIA to disgrace McCarthy- and was told
no such class would ever be taught at his school. When I offered the CIA report
to him he said he refused to read
it.
QUESTION: To remind our readers,
what were the revelations in the CIA
files?
FLORES: There was a secret group
within OSS and CIA called THE POND run by a true American hero, Jean Grombach.
It's role was not discovered until decades later, when boxed CIA files were
found in a barn in Virginia. The confused family that found the boxes called CIA
in Langley, who carted the boxes off. Although filled with authentic CIA
documents, no one at CIA knew anything about The Pond. Retired agents were
contacted and the story began to
emerge.
In 1942 a head of KGB Intel
began feeding Grombach names of spies in our government. Which he passed on to
his supervisors.
For ten years, as the names came
in, from the State Department to spies in OSS and then CIA- no one actually did
anything about the spies. FDR let them stay, Truman would disband OSS when
Grombach convinced him it was entirely compromised, but Truman was gone after
being blamed for firing Douglas McArthur- and one of my former heroes,
Eisenhower, then moved to protect his beloved Army and Dulles at CIA decided to
set up Joe with a fake name and cause him to lose confidence. McCarthy was
right, the list of names were correct, he was the first government whistleblower
and we see what they did to him. That's pretty much
it.
QUESTION: Why can you read these
reports and draw these conclusions, while even people involved in education
don't want to hear this?
FLORES: I decided years ago that
I wanted to know the true history of America, but I had no idea it would lead to
a complete re-thinking of McCarthy history. I like to be proven wrong, and
change my beliefs. Others clearly do not. They call it flip
flopping.
I am also a Navy brat, still
love Navy Intel, so I realize that most of our history is actually propaganda.
Diplomacy, of which spying and secret deals are often a part of, is our real
history. Comments like, that President brought us Camelot, are just propaganda.
It means nothing. Sadly, historians by ignoring all the revelations coming from
the UK and Germany and Russia on the 1930's through the 1960's just continue the
propaganda.
We are getting ready to have a
national orgy over FDR. Now, today economists all say he prolonged the
depression, his New Deal was largely undone his first year in office by the
Supreme Court which he then openly began to replace members of with people who
agreed with him. Yet we are told by prolonging the depression he saved America
from revolution. Bullshit propaganda. Easily researched. But they
don't.
So FDR did nothing to stop spies
in our government, he turned 200 million Europeans over to Stalin. The man in
charge of security at Yalta, Alger Hiss, had been identified as an agent in
1942! Many Europeans committed suicide in front of our consulates in protest of
being turned over to Stalin. We couldn't understand why they wouldn't want the
free health care, or why they would rather die than be slaves! He also gave
Hoover of the FBI his enemies list for Hoover to spy on about their sex lives
and so forth. Long before Nixon and his enemies list. So while the FBI should
have been acting on The Ponds' list, they were spying on FDR's enemies sex lives
instead. Illegal break-ins and illegal wiretaps by the FBI during the FDR
through the Eisenhower years also destroyed many cases against spies far worse
than the Rosenberg's.
Some folks not only can't, but
refuse to handle the truth!
What are we celebrating?
Nostalgia. Nothing real.
QUESTION: A class on how
propaganda shapes beliefs, how the CIA framed McCarthy and how our pop culture
deals with those days would probably result in making it very hard to use
propaganda again.
FLORES: Well I know one school
they would rather teach the old CIA
spin!
QUESTION:
So what are you doing with the
knowledge you have?
FLORES: I'm working on a movie
right now, ADOLF HITLER AGAINST THE PIRATES but I'm also working on a play based
on the CIA revelations. I love spy stories that are true. Being attacked has
allowed me to develop a tough exterior. I have a pretty good idea what I am in
for, what I will be accused of and the like. Once I realized that when the play
comes out there are those at various boards that will attack and how they will,
it is going to be a slam dunk to stop them. I actually do DJ, I actually do
plays, I actually have dated celebs! So when they rush out to attack- they will
be easily squashed.
QUESTION: So you let them attack
to build a false case against
you?
FLORES: Yep. I believe those
charges will come out when my play does as part of a smear campaign - but right
now I'm in control of their
"information".
I would have made one hell of a
spy!
QUESTION: What has been the most
positive thing that's happened to you over
this?
FLORES: I spoke in front of The
College of Complexes on this. When I arrived as things were being set up I
noticed a table full of left wing and socialist lit. There were even guys going
around selling their socialist papers! I thought, man am I in for it. The place
filled up, two rooms full. As I gave the talk, I saw a lot of skepticism in the
audiences faces. After passing around the CIA papers however, that look went
away. At the end of the speech, the people you would think would have the most
to lose, applauded me and punctuated their questions by saying my research was
untouchable. Socialists! Pro union people! But they wanted to know the truth
about the era.
QUESTION: Is ADOLF HITLER
AGAINST THE PIRATES a comedy?
FLORES: Dramedy, and its based
on a true story!
QUESTION: (laughter) and what is
the McCarthy title?
FLORES: The working title is THE
CIA VERSUS JOSEPH McCARTHY, which I took from the CIA files. They don't call it
The Red Scare or the Witch-hunt Era. They know what it
was!
QUESTION: I have a feeling the
critics are already trying to figure out how to attack you on
this!
FLORES: I do not call myself a
theatre person. I am an entertainer. I market outside the theatre community,
which I estimate for small and medium range theatre to be about 2000 people. If
I was in theatre the critics would have nothing to fear. 6 to 8 weeks and your
out. My own shows have run for 33 weeks to a year and a half, with one
exception. If I did things the way theatre people did, my casts wouldn't be
paid, there wouldn't be medical and psychological benefits, etc. My shows, even
the hits, would close in 6 to 8 weeks. So I call myself an entertainer, and go
after people who would normally go to a bar or movie than live theatre. The
hundreds of theatre groups out there can fight over the
2000.
So I have made myself review
proof.
QUESTION: Both these projects
seem like they would attract
press.
FLORES: Good. I love journalists
because most of them have taken ethics classes. I have seen critics send in
another person to review my plays, and put their own name on it. There was a guy
at the Tribune so hated by his co-workers that the mail room would stop faxes
and refuse to deliver them to him because he was so arrogant to them. I watched
a woman critic laugh during an entire show I did and then write that she didn't
laugh once. I have had critics from a so-called alternative paper admit they
tried to be mean because they wanted a job- and the paper seems to favor
slapdowns.
Very few people read small
theatre reviews, but get in the fashion section or have a journalist write about
you- people do read that.
There is a reason one paper in
town often puts the reviews across from the obituary
page.
There are theatre groups in town
that tell actors I don't pay, I don't offer medical benefits, etc. I have had
whole casts signatoried into SAG, have offered free legal counsel, have been
covered by national and international press. Pretty soon the lies of these
groups will be harder to pull
off.
QUESTION; You seem like you are
already in battle mode.
FLORES: Nope. Victory mode. The
truth will out. http://joemcarthytruth.blogdrive.com/===================== Who
is Mike Flores?Just Who Am
I?There have been some questions raised as to
who I am. Well, this article appeared in the Chicago Tribune that appeared about
me. So this will give you an idea.Mike
Flores puts improv technique to the acid
testBy Robert K.
ElderTribune staff
reporterMay 19,
2004If Mike Flores had a resume, which
he doesn't, the "experience" portion would look something like
this:Movie director, scriptwriter, disc
jockey, playwright, actor, improv comedy troupe leader, Vietnam War protester,
underground journalist, hippie and founder and president of Chicago's
Psychotronic Film Society.This week,
he's adding "improv dramatist" to the list with "The Acid Test 1966," a
psychedelic ensemble theater piece performed by The Wrecking Crew, Flores'
improv comedy troupe.Film composer Mark
Mothersbaugh, the former frontman of post-punk icons Devo, provides recorded
music for Flores' loony vision, which takes its name from Ken Kesey and the
Merry Pranksters' 1966 trip across the U.S. exposing the populace to psychedelic
culture and LSD."I was fortunate enough
to make friends years ago with an older, more mature [acid guru] Tim Leary,"
Mothersbaugh says. "Although my days of dropping acid had long been over, I
associated the era with a lot of positive change and spontaneity. It always fit
into my life in a positive way, and to create music for [Flores'] project --
it's a chance to work muscles that were already
there."From 1966 to 1967, Flores says,
the whole country went through a major cultural shift. Students were protesting
the war in Vietnam, "the pill" ushered in the era of free love, and politics
became a powder keg sitting in the middle of many family dinner
tables.Flores, who turned his 43-week
run of "Bettie Page Uncensored: The Unauthorized Story" at Lakeview's Playground
Theater into an independent movie last year, says he wants to explore the
significance of those few mid-'60s
months."I'm interested in that moment
when things began to change, and the versions I've seen of that moment so far
[have been lacking]," he says."The stuff
that's left over from the era really doesn't capture what happened to the
people, what was on our minds and what started the ripple that would change
society."Flores' "The Acid Test 1966"
revolves around a party and a sextet of youths from different walks of life. One
character has run away from the home of her Navy officer father, which reflects
Flores' own biography."All of the
characters probably represent some part of me," concedes Flores, a frenetic,
motor-lipped raconteur. "Many of the experiences the characters have, I had at
some point."Friction on home
frontA former military brat, Flores was
born in San Diego, then raised in Osaka, Japan, and Atlanta. He says he left
home because of friction with his parents over
Vietnam."I was being groomed for
military school, then a second lieutenant [position] in Vietnam," he
recalls.The turning point came, he says,
in 1966 when his father, a lifetime Navy man, was visited by a friend, just back
from a tour of Vietnam. The visitor brought along a slideshow, Flores
remembers."The first slide was of him on
top of a pile of bodies and the second was guys with enemy ears strung around
their necks," Flores says. "I think it was those slides that shook me
up."So, he left home, hitchhiked through
36 states looking like "a stalk of broccoli," rail-thin with a large Afro. He
survived by writing for underground newspapers, and in 1971 got an offer from
the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) in Chicago to write and organize
demonstrations against the war. After the SDS gig ended, Flores hung around
Chicago floating from job to job, watching bootlegged Japanese animation. In
1979, friend Del Close, legendary Second City personality and founder of the
ImprovOlympic, turned him on to
improv."I also got excited by what Del
was trying to do with it," Flores says. "Del's vision was the long-form improv
method could be used to create shows, movies, TV shows -- and then when you have
something you feel comfortable with, you keep
it."From 1979 to 1985, the pair
performed as "Pope Michael Flores and Rev. Del Close" on television, radio and
nightclubs, Flores says.Close died five
years ago of complications from emphysema. People still misunderstand his
long-form improv methods, Flores says, which is basically using improv to create
characters and plots spontaneously, then honing the end result into a cohesive
narrative structure."Unfortunately, it
got labeled as an improv exercise and no one tried to carry it to the next
step," Flores says. "The Acid Test 1966" is his attempt to demonstrate Close's
vision."I liked the idea of characters
creating themselves," Flores says. "I have a skeleton of where we're going,
where the dance numbers come in, but everything else is created by the actors
themselves."George Dickson, 28, plays
Wild Bill in the play, host of the "acid test." He says he joined The Wrecking
Crew after answering Flores' ad in the theater magazine
Performink."He's either crazy or a
genius, or maybe both," Dickson says of Flores. "He has big plans and ideas and
unorthodox methods. I like the freedom that he gives you. He's the only director
I've had who shows up with a 12-pack of
beer."Championing cult
moviesFlores hasn't had a day job in 10
years and spends most of his time working on plays, movies and projects with the
Psychotronic Film Society, which champions cult movies. An Internet enthusiast,
Flores showers his cast, friends and colleagues with multiple daily e-mails
about new music, politics and conspiracy
theories.Starlet photos and autographs,
including signed glossies of Sean Connery, Johnny Carson and Kate Moss, decorate
an entire wall of the Rogers Park apartment he shares with wife Kat Southerland,
"Acid Test's" executive producer.In a
gravelly voice with a vague Southern accent, Flores recounts the time he dropped
acid with rocker Duane Allman, the time he dated actress Kim Cattrall (a signed
cast photo of "Sex and the City" hangs on the wall), the time his wife proposed
to him "over hot wings at Hooters" and the tale of turning 16 in a New Mexico
jail -- all stories his cast has heard, some more than
once."He has a story for everything;
he's done just about everything," says Kai Collins, 27, an Uma Thurman lookalike
who plays free spirit Eve in the
show.During their first, hour-long,
phone conversation, Collins remembers, "I doodle when I talk on the phone, so
when we were done talking, I had about 10 pages and at the bottom, I wrote,
`This guy is totally nuts.'" Collins has since, affectionately, upgraded her
assessment of Flores to "functionally
insane."Ever the non-conformist, Flores
isn't moving his production into traditional
venues."I'm moving it into nightclubs,
movie houses, art galleries -- places where people don't expect to see improv
anything," Flores says. "We do shows like a rock group."Part of the reason is
the form of the show. There's no stage, and audiences are encouraged to mingle
and interact with the characters at "the party." Non-traditional venues also
have economic benefits."Theater people
wait for the critic to show up," Flores says. "Then they hope it's a good review
and they hope they can sell enough tickets to at least cover the rent. This is
unacceptable for me. If I did that, I'd have to take a
job."He is convinced Chicagoans want to
see something new."There's about 200
theaters and about 700 theater groups in Chicago and they all pretty much battle
for the same 2,500 people. So they end up running for four weeks, six weeks.
They spend a year developing a show, they don't have a chance of getting back
any of what they've invested," Flores says. "My shows tend to run so long --
they've gone 33 weeks to a year and a half. They appeal to people who are
experience-oriented. They want to experience something new, want to feel like
they are involved in something
exciting."Connection to the
fringeMothersbaugh says this passionate
point of view helped draw him to the
project."I've always been connected,
through Devo, to the more interesting fringe artists, so I meet a lot of madmen
and really talented visionaries," Mothersbaugh says. "I think of [Flores] as
somebody who is very enthusiastic about . . . all the little bits of shrapnel
that influence and make up culture."The
pair had tried to team up before, but something always got in the way, Flores
says. "But when I told him I was going to basically re-create an acid trip [in
the performance], his reaction was immediate. He volunteered to do the
music."Flores wants to take the
experience from "The Acid Test 1966" and create an unrelated improv indie movie.
There are also plans in June to do a comedy concept CD with The Wrecking Crew,
produced by Joe Cassidy of local band
Assassins."I call myself an entertainer,
as opposed to being a theater person. I don't hang out at actor bars, I don't
talk about the family of theater," Flores says. "I'm easy to miss in the theater
community until you look in the paper and say, `Damn, that show is still
running?'"====================
Posted: Tue - September 18, 2007 at 01:30 AM
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