Why The US Looks Like a Nation of Dupes - Reposted, original was
spiked.
The Sibel Edmunds
story swirls on the web but the trail is stamped out by the Media, including the
"Leftgate Keepers" (not the site) who will only go "so
far".
Selected quotes and links.
Selected quotes and links.
From Washington Post, James Grimaldi June 19 2002
page A 10 (emphasis mine)
"The FBI confirmed that Edmonds's co-worker had been part of an organization that was a target of top-secret surveillance and that the same co-worker had "unreported contacts" with a foreign government official subject to the surveillance, according to a letter from the two senators to the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General. In addition, the linguist failed to translate two communications from the targeted foreign government official, the letter said."
"Edmonds said she told Dennis Saccher, a special agent in the Washington field office who was conducting the surveillance, about the co-worker's actions and Saccher replied, "It looks like espionage to me." Saccher declined to comment when contacted by a reporter."
"Edmonds was fired in March after she reported her concerns. Government officials said the FBI fired her because her "disruptiveness" hurt her on-the-job "performance." Edmonds said she believes she was fired in retaliation for reporting on her co-worker."
"In an interview, she said she became particularly alarmed when she discovered that a recently hired FBI translator was saying that she belonged to the Middle Eastern organization whose taped conversations she had been translating for FBI counterintelligence agents. Officials asked that the name of the target group not be revealed for national security reasons."
"Edmonds said that on several occasions, the translator tried to recruit her to join the targeted foreign group. "This person told us she worked for our target organization," Edmonds said in an interview. "These are the people we are targeting, monitoring."
"Edmonds would not identify the other translator, but The Post has learned from other sources that she is a 33-year-old U.S. citizen whose native country is home to the target group. Both Edmonds and the other translator are U.S. citizens who trace their ethnicity to the same Middle Eastern country."
"Edmonds said the woman and her husband, a U.S. military officer, suggested during a hastily arranged visit to Edmonds's Northern Virginia home on a Sunday morning that Edmonds join the group."
"He said, 'Are you a member of the particular organization?' " Edmonds recalled the woman's husband saying. "[He said,] 'It's a very good place to be a member. There are a lot of advantages of being with this organization and doing things together' -- this is our targeted organization -- 'and one of the greatest things about it is you can have an early, an unexpected, early retirement. And you will be totally set if you go to that specific country.' "
"Later, Edmonds said, the woman approached her with a list dividing up individuals whose phone lines were being secretly tapped: Under the plan, the woman would translate conversations of her former co-workers in the target organization, and Edmonds would handle other phone calls. Edmonds said she refused and that the woman told her that her lack of cooperation could put her family in danger."
"Edmonds wrote to the inspector general's office in March. "Incorrect or misleading translations are being sent to agents in the field. Translations are being blocked and circumvented."
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Worth going to the link, Clips from Justin Raimondo's June 21 2002 report follow
Before going any further, let's clear up the matter of this mysterious "Middle Eastern organization" that takes such an active interest in – and apparently has such an all-pervasive influence over – the internal workings of our very own FBI. "Officials asked that the name of the target group not be revealed for national security reasons," the Post reports, yet enough clues are buried – and not very deeply – throughout this story by James V. Grimaldi that we can narrow the possible suspects to a considerable degree. While Edmonds is so far refusing to identify this snake hiding amid the high grass of the FBI's Washington compound, the Post tells us:
"She is a 33-year-old U.S. citizen whose native country is home to the target group. Both Edmonds and the other translator are US citizens who trace their ethnicity to the same Middle Eastern country."
A friend with access to Lexis-Nexis – hey, we can't afford such bourgeois luxuries here at Antiwar.com! Whaddaya think this is – the Weekly Standard? – informs me that there is indeed a Sibel Edmonds, 33, of Northern Virginia, formerly Sibel Ganiz or Sibel Deniz, the latter a Turkish name, although Sibel is perhaps Jewish or Armenian. Another bit of evidence: Edmonds says that the other translator, accompanied by the woman's husband, rushed over to Edmonds' home one Sunday and suggested that Edmonds "join the group."
Okay, so that lets out Armenia as the foreign country involved in what is clearly an intelligence operation directed at the United States. I seriously doubt whether anyone could look forward to a luxurious retirement in threadbare Yerevan, unless that person is a singularly dirty (and bargain-hunting) old man. In any case, Armenian intelligence, I imagine, doesn't have that large a presence in the US.
The same consideration kind of lets out Turkey, which is not in much better economic shape: the recent economic crisis, which led to a radical devaluation of the currency (nearly 100%!), massive bankruptcies, and a precipitous fall in the average income, makes it seem even less inviting as a retirement home for compromised FBI agents.
There is, however, a third alternative, and that is the sole Middle Eastern country with a standard of living even remotely comparable to that found in the US. By a process of elimination, then, Israel seems the only possibility. Turkish intelligence is known for many things – torture, kidnapping, merciless pursuit of perceived enemies – but so far they seem to have refrained from carrying out their criminal activities on American soil. The Israelis, on the other hand, do indeed have a history of intelligence operations conducted in – and against – the US. What is more, these operations have recently been more visible than ever, as Carl Cameron revealed last year in a now-famous 4-part series broadcast by Fox News.
Cameron's report diagrammed a vast underground apparatus run by the Mossad, one that had penetrated US government "secure" communications, and might have had foreknowledge of the events of 9/11 – because it's quite possible they were watching the hijackers, shadowing Mohamed Atta and friends as they plotted and trained for The Day. A key part of Cameron's revelations are directly related to US government wiretaps, and, in Part III of his series, the intrepid Fox News reporter details the Israeli connection to the company with the exclusive contract to work on the technical aspects of these operations: Comverse-Infosys, now known as Verint.
Verint makes customized computers and software designed to cut into the system of circuits and switches that make up the nation's phone system in order to capture, store, and record wiretapped conversations, simultaneously sending them to government agents. The problem, however, is that the producers of this valuable tool have constant access to the computers and the information contained therein for "maintenance" purposes. This amounts to what many in law enforcement regard as a "back door" left wide open – specifically to the Israelis, who provide up to half of the company's research and development budget, and naturally works "closely" with them. The flawed security architecture of US intelligence gathering was specifically authorized by the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, or CALEA. According to Cameron:
"Senior government officials have now told Fox News that while CALEA made wiretapping easier, it has led to a system that is seriously vulnerable to compromise,and may have undermined the whole wiretapping system. Indeed, Fox News has learned that Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were both warned October 18th in a hand-delivered letter from 15 local, state and federal law enforcement officials, who complained that – quote – 'law enforcement's current electronic surveillance capabilities are less effective today than they were at the time CALEA was enacted.'"
We need to listen to what Edmonds, Rowley, and others are asking: Why would the FBI hierarchy deliberately sabotage a case? Why are Israeli spies allowed to roam free, with untrammeled access to our "secure" communications? Are top officials of our law enforcement agencies mentally challenged – or is treason the reason?
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Related Telecom ---->> LINK
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Well this should be easy no? If Edmunds and the spy translator are of the same Middle Eastern ethnicity we only need to know what ethnicity either one of these people are. The press calls her Turkish, Raimondo's Lexus Nexus search points to Armenian origins but Albert Pastore author of the book "Stranger Than Fiction" says "The Washington Post briefly reported this story without mentioning the name of nation that tried to recruit Edmonds. But The Post did reveal that Edmonds and the other translator "trace their ethnicity" to this certain "Middle Eastern" country.128 Agent Sibel Edmunds is not an Arab. Edmonds is jewish." -- LINK
Aside from Pastore's statement and the obvious logic and other evidences which would point to Israel as the "Middle Eastern country" I can find no corroboration for his statement. How would you? A DNA test is pointless because being a Jew is not being a "race" just as being a Southern Baptist does not make one a member of a race although if someone believes otherwise I guess it doesn't matter and that would be good enough.
No the way to go is to find out who the "group" is, who is the "US Military Officer"? In fact who are the other people running our foreign policy?
I can't do it from here but the 9-11 Commission could find out. Will they? I don't think so because if it were Israel it would be unmentionable in the US, and Canada too for that matter as Adbusters found out.
Meanwhile the rest of the world knows this story and we wonder why the US looks like a nation of duped idiots.
"As Rice's appearance before the commission grew into a huge news story, Edmonds's account went global. The Independent's story received respectful, extensive treatment from news sites on every continent, ranging from Cronica de Hoy (in Spanish) in Mexico City to Munich's Sueddeutsche Zeitung (in German) to the Khaleej Times in the Persian Gulf to the New Zealand Herald in the South Pacific." --->>>> LINK
"The FBI confirmed that Edmonds's co-worker had been part of an organization that was a target of top-secret surveillance and that the same co-worker had "unreported contacts" with a foreign government official subject to the surveillance, according to a letter from the two senators to the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General. In addition, the linguist failed to translate two communications from the targeted foreign government official, the letter said."
"Edmonds said she told Dennis Saccher, a special agent in the Washington field office who was conducting the surveillance, about the co-worker's actions and Saccher replied, "It looks like espionage to me." Saccher declined to comment when contacted by a reporter."
"Edmonds was fired in March after she reported her concerns. Government officials said the FBI fired her because her "disruptiveness" hurt her on-the-job "performance." Edmonds said she believes she was fired in retaliation for reporting on her co-worker."
"In an interview, she said she became particularly alarmed when she discovered that a recently hired FBI translator was saying that she belonged to the Middle Eastern organization whose taped conversations she had been translating for FBI counterintelligence agents. Officials asked that the name of the target group not be revealed for national security reasons."
"Edmonds said that on several occasions, the translator tried to recruit her to join the targeted foreign group. "This person told us she worked for our target organization," Edmonds said in an interview. "These are the people we are targeting, monitoring."
"Edmonds would not identify the other translator, but The Post has learned from other sources that she is a 33-year-old U.S. citizen whose native country is home to the target group. Both Edmonds and the other translator are U.S. citizens who trace their ethnicity to the same Middle Eastern country."
"Edmonds said the woman and her husband, a U.S. military officer, suggested during a hastily arranged visit to Edmonds's Northern Virginia home on a Sunday morning that Edmonds join the group."
"He said, 'Are you a member of the particular organization?' " Edmonds recalled the woman's husband saying. "[He said,] 'It's a very good place to be a member. There are a lot of advantages of being with this organization and doing things together' -- this is our targeted organization -- 'and one of the greatest things about it is you can have an early, an unexpected, early retirement. And you will be totally set if you go to that specific country.' "
"Later, Edmonds said, the woman approached her with a list dividing up individuals whose phone lines were being secretly tapped: Under the plan, the woman would translate conversations of her former co-workers in the target organization, and Edmonds would handle other phone calls. Edmonds said she refused and that the woman told her that her lack of cooperation could put her family in danger."
"Edmonds wrote to the inspector general's office in March. "Incorrect or misleading translations are being sent to agents in the field. Translations are being blocked and circumvented."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Worth going to the link, Clips from Justin Raimondo's June 21 2002 report follow
Before going any further, let's clear up the matter of this mysterious "Middle Eastern organization" that takes such an active interest in – and apparently has such an all-pervasive influence over – the internal workings of our very own FBI. "Officials asked that the name of the target group not be revealed for national security reasons," the Post reports, yet enough clues are buried – and not very deeply – throughout this story by James V. Grimaldi that we can narrow the possible suspects to a considerable degree. While Edmonds is so far refusing to identify this snake hiding amid the high grass of the FBI's Washington compound, the Post tells us:
"She is a 33-year-old U.S. citizen whose native country is home to the target group. Both Edmonds and the other translator are US citizens who trace their ethnicity to the same Middle Eastern country."
A friend with access to Lexis-Nexis – hey, we can't afford such bourgeois luxuries here at Antiwar.com! Whaddaya think this is – the Weekly Standard? – informs me that there is indeed a Sibel Edmonds, 33, of Northern Virginia, formerly Sibel Ganiz or Sibel Deniz, the latter a Turkish name, although Sibel is perhaps Jewish or Armenian. Another bit of evidence: Edmonds says that the other translator, accompanied by the woman's husband, rushed over to Edmonds' home one Sunday and suggested that Edmonds "join the group."
Okay, so that lets out Armenia as the foreign country involved in what is clearly an intelligence operation directed at the United States. I seriously doubt whether anyone could look forward to a luxurious retirement in threadbare Yerevan, unless that person is a singularly dirty (and bargain-hunting) old man. In any case, Armenian intelligence, I imagine, doesn't have that large a presence in the US.
The same consideration kind of lets out Turkey, which is not in much better economic shape: the recent economic crisis, which led to a radical devaluation of the currency (nearly 100%!), massive bankruptcies, and a precipitous fall in the average income, makes it seem even less inviting as a retirement home for compromised FBI agents.
There is, however, a third alternative, and that is the sole Middle Eastern country with a standard of living even remotely comparable to that found in the US. By a process of elimination, then, Israel seems the only possibility. Turkish intelligence is known for many things – torture, kidnapping, merciless pursuit of perceived enemies – but so far they seem to have refrained from carrying out their criminal activities on American soil. The Israelis, on the other hand, do indeed have a history of intelligence operations conducted in – and against – the US. What is more, these operations have recently been more visible than ever, as Carl Cameron revealed last year in a now-famous 4-part series broadcast by Fox News.
Cameron's report diagrammed a vast underground apparatus run by the Mossad, one that had penetrated US government "secure" communications, and might have had foreknowledge of the events of 9/11 – because it's quite possible they were watching the hijackers, shadowing Mohamed Atta and friends as they plotted and trained for The Day. A key part of Cameron's revelations are directly related to US government wiretaps, and, in Part III of his series, the intrepid Fox News reporter details the Israeli connection to the company with the exclusive contract to work on the technical aspects of these operations: Comverse-Infosys, now known as Verint.
Verint makes customized computers and software designed to cut into the system of circuits and switches that make up the nation's phone system in order to capture, store, and record wiretapped conversations, simultaneously sending them to government agents. The problem, however, is that the producers of this valuable tool have constant access to the computers and the information contained therein for "maintenance" purposes. This amounts to what many in law enforcement regard as a "back door" left wide open – specifically to the Israelis, who provide up to half of the company's research and development budget, and naturally works "closely" with them. The flawed security architecture of US intelligence gathering was specifically authorized by the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, or CALEA. According to Cameron:
"Senior government officials have now told Fox News that while CALEA made wiretapping easier, it has led to a system that is seriously vulnerable to compromise,and may have undermined the whole wiretapping system. Indeed, Fox News has learned that Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were both warned October 18th in a hand-delivered letter from 15 local, state and federal law enforcement officials, who complained that – quote – 'law enforcement's current electronic surveillance capabilities are less effective today than they were at the time CALEA was enacted.'"
We need to listen to what Edmonds, Rowley, and others are asking: Why would the FBI hierarchy deliberately sabotage a case? Why are Israeli spies allowed to roam free, with untrammeled access to our "secure" communications? Are top officials of our law enforcement agencies mentally challenged – or is treason the reason?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Related Telecom ---->> LINK
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well this should be easy no? If Edmunds and the spy translator are of the same Middle Eastern ethnicity we only need to know what ethnicity either one of these people are. The press calls her Turkish, Raimondo's Lexus Nexus search points to Armenian origins but Albert Pastore author of the book "Stranger Than Fiction" says "The Washington Post briefly reported this story without mentioning the name of nation that tried to recruit Edmonds. But The Post did reveal that Edmonds and the other translator "trace their ethnicity" to this certain "Middle Eastern" country.128 Agent Sibel Edmunds is not an Arab. Edmonds is jewish." -- LINK
Aside from Pastore's statement and the obvious logic and other evidences which would point to Israel as the "Middle Eastern country" I can find no corroboration for his statement. How would you? A DNA test is pointless because being a Jew is not being a "race" just as being a Southern Baptist does not make one a member of a race although if someone believes otherwise I guess it doesn't matter and that would be good enough.
No the way to go is to find out who the "group" is, who is the "US Military Officer"? In fact who are the other people running our foreign policy?
I can't do it from here but the 9-11 Commission could find out. Will they? I don't think so because if it were Israel it would be unmentionable in the US, and Canada too for that matter as Adbusters found out.
Meanwhile the rest of the world knows this story and we wonder why the US looks like a nation of duped idiots.
"As Rice's appearance before the commission grew into a huge news story, Edmonds's account went global. The Independent's story received respectful, extensive treatment from news sites on every continent, ranging from Cronica de Hoy (in Spanish) in Mexico City to Munich's Sueddeutsche Zeitung (in German) to the Khaleej Times in the Persian Gulf to the New Zealand Herald in the South Pacific." --->>>> LINK
Posted: Sun - April 11, 2004 at 10:40
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