EDUCAUSE Virtual Worlds Constituent Group Meeting March 23, 2009
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Special thanks to Marc Rexen for this photograph from the session in Chicago.
AJ Brooks: folks out in the amphitheater, come on down and join us at the roundtable
AJ Brooks: if you can't hear me, please let me know
Gwynna Cleanslate: I almost selected Montclair for my college years ... but Douglass was closer
AJ Brooks: Margaret Michalski can help you with your voice chat issues
AJ Brooks: anyone having voice chat problems, IM Margaret
Marty Snowpaw: AJ can you make an announcement about VWBPE beginning this Friday
Marty Snowpaw: http://www.vwbpe.org/
Margaret Michalski: Just send me an IM if you are having voice problems
Marty Snowpaw: marty keltz content producer....
Gwynna Cleanslate: I'm Ef Deal, from Haddonfield, NJ, and my interests are to use SL to enable distance learning with high school seniors
Shawnta Clarence: Evalyn Gossett Indiana University School of Nursing
Juice Gyoza: patrick is giving introductions here
Thompson Dawes: Richard Sidler student
Bill Friis: Bill Freese, Montana State University, Teacher Education, Instructional Technology
Toi Kohime: Toi Kohime - Los Angeles, CA - I'm an Instructional Designer & I'm currently running a study on Problem Based Learning in SL
Margaret Michalski: Margaret, Univ of Illinois at Chicago, Research Information Specialist
Arelle Finesmith: Rise Smith & Peg O'Brien, Dakota State University, Madison, SD
Magdalena Easterwood: Merrilee Gladkosky enrichment/art teacher, Chester, CT...
Cahalane Zepp: Michael Cahalane, UCC in Ireland, Collaborative production of digital goods.
JeanClaude Vollmar: I'm Jeff Le Blanc from the University of Northwestern Ohio in Lima, OH.
Juice Gyoza: we already are
Sand Lexenstar: Hi all, I'm Sand Bruls, currently engaged in a research program at the University of Toronto on the use of Second Life
Juice Gyoza: hold on...
Thompson Dawes: audio balance
AJ Brooks: not getting sound from far point
Duncan Ramer: C.J. I am the tech. teacher in an alternative HS interested in using SL cross curric. and distance education
Alpha Amiga: Chris aka Alpha, Queensland University of Technology, Faculty of Law
Thompson Dawes: becon on sound source
Susana Rexen: Susana Rexen, SJSU Graduate student in Nursing Education
Vincent Badger: Hi. my name is vincent busch. involved in SL related research at the university of toronto.
AJ Brooks: http://educause.edu/groups/vw
Margaret Michalski: If anyone is willing to transcribe voice, please do so.
Margaret Michalski: I would but I don't type fast enough : )
Margaret Michalski: Snapshots are also welcome!
Shawnta Clarence: Educause annual Conference in Denver CO this fall
Turterelle Cuttita: may I join ?
Jacqueline Despres: can barely hear this voice???
AJ Brooks: much better
Shawnta Clarence: Assessing SL would be challenging and it seems each are assessing differently
Thompson Dawes: position your camera to the speaker
AJ Brooks: ROFL
AJ Brooks: how many people are on location?
AJ Brooks: in Chicago?
AJ Brooks: wow
AJ Brooks: GREAT!!!!
AJ Brooks: WELCOME!
AJ Brooks: what have the others done?
Marc Rexen: 25 people in Chicago, 5 for learning activities.
Oronoque Westland: what about for self-development?
Bill Friis: 35 here in SL
Shawnta Clarence: 25 people in Chgo, 80% have been into sl,
Jacqueline Despres: I hesitate to hazard a guess, AJ :-)
Bill Friis: 100% here in SL
Jacqueline Despres: LOL
Marc Rexen: The rest have been in to play around with it.
Marty Snowpaw: hehe
Marc Rexen: Asking for a list of places from Chicago.
Marc Rexen: visited within SL.
Marc Rexen: Wonder about the learning curve for students.
AJ Brooks: can you reat what they are saying
Marc Rexen: I am trying AJ...:)
Oronoque Westland: there are 2 sides to this, I think - evaluating SL vs other platforms, and evaluating what you are doing in SL
Marc Rexen: UNOH of Ohio is exploring and checking it out.
JeanClaude Vollmar: YEAH! UNOH. Go Racers.
AJ Brooks: LOL - not you Marc, I meant in Chicago
Shawnta Clarence: UNOH - signed in, oriented to SL, concerned with learning curve in SL
Bill Friis: Distance Ed students have trouble connecting in our rural state.
Marc Rexen: Learning curve issues.
Max Chatnoir: learning curve issues are reduced in full immersion classes.
Magdalena Easterwood: incredible content, great opportunity but so much questionable content. afraid of hitting something accidentally
Marc Rexen: Less than 20% of class of Tonya is challenged with creating avatars.
Marc Rexen: A class with computers and an instructor means 30 minutes to success.
Robin Mochi: The learning curve is getting easier due to some of the excellent orientation areas available inworld now for educators
Shawnta Clarence: approximately 20% of students feel challenged. if computer lab is available you could get them going within 30 minutes of orientation
Juice Gyoza: anne from wayne state is discussing her orientation of students
Marc Rexen: About half of the students go through Orientation Island before class...with the rest getting up to speed within 30 minutes.
Shawnta Clarence: in computer lab, each machine has SL installed and ask students to go to orientation Island prior
Juice Gyoza: she is discussing a cross cultural communication class
Juice Gyoza: she confirms that a computer lab with sl can orient students very quickly
AJ Brooks: People in world, bear with us with the sound
Thompson Dawes: is that an undergraduate program?
Marty Snowpaw: Best intro point is on Virtual Ability, (128, 127, 23)
Marc Rexen: Profs using SL are sporting their learning has gone beyond what they expected.
Juice Gyoza: she has data -- within 15 minutes students can get through the orientation
AJ Brooks: I like VIrtual Ability also
Juice Gyoza: virtual ability is great!!
Shawnta Clarence: students report that within 15 mins they felt able to get the jist
AJ Brooks: very well designed
Juice Gyoza: we recommend it to our faculty at UWM too
Oronoque Westland: Virtual Ability Island has a fantastic orientation with few of the issues newbies encounter on Orientation Island...also it goes into Mac-specific areas as well
Duncan Ramer: I question that a little bit I still find many people who can not dress themselves
AJ Brooks: people who are transcribing (other than Juice), would it be possible to add VOICE at the start of the entry, so we know its a transcription
Duncan Ramer: yes that I would agree with too
AJ Brooks: if not - no worries - just keep typing, we appreciate
Shawnta Clarence: approx 2 of 15 may experience problems
AJ Brooks: not for you Yanya
AJ Brooks: Tanya
Robin Mochi: I now require my students to visit Virtual Ability orientation and one other from a list of four before they can show up for first inworld class
Marc Rexen: 2 out of 25 students have problems with SL (and they also have problems with e-mail...i.e., it's the student).
Marc Rexen: Talking about Virtual Ability Island...good orientation.
Marc Rexen: Very good tutorial.
Duncan Ramer: I work with HS students and they have a few problems at the start but they get confident quickly
Oronoque Westland: you can now get your SL account via Virtual Ability and avoid Orientation Island altogether
Marc Rexen: Asking for other reasons why they haven't taken the plunge to use SL.
Margaret Michalski: Do students complete some sort of survey for the instructor to help the instructor develop the orientation?
Susana Rexen: the audio is choppy
Marc Rexen: Whenever new tech comes along, the question is, is this tech in search of a problem, or a problem solved by tech?
Thompson Dawes: they have to get the speaker closer to the laptop
Magdalena Easterwood: inappropriate people and content...too easy to run into
AJ Brooks: exactly!
AJ Brooks: EXACTLY!
Robin Mochi: yes
AJ Brooks: it has to be about the pedagogy and not the tool
Cahalane Zepp: disabled users.
Marty Snowpaw: LoriVonne Lustre is a good contact for finding out more about Virtual Ability Island
Marc Rexen: Talking about UWM Pilot project and asking the question why don't we have more data to support the pedagogy.
Marc Rexen: Not a lot of tangible evidence that the greater social presence works.
Magdalena Easterwood: excellent for students with social disabilities
Marc Rexen: Tonya is saying she has data indicating higher engagement attributable to the social presence and knowledge that you're ARE talking with a human.
Oronoque Westland: Virtual Ability Orientation - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Virtual%20Ability/170/99/23
Bill Friis: Yes. Sense of real contact is great for Distance Ed, if only we could get them all able to connect. Great future.
Marc Rexen: Anecdotal data too...asking for official or anecdotal data.
Duncan Ramer: Yes it does . . .I collect data on my students and yes it across the board My students show a vast improvement in engagement and comprehension
Robin Mochi: When compared to other tools used for distance education online courses, there is no comparison to only using a course management system...far superior experience
Marc Rexen: Response from someone talking about language usage on their campus with good acceptance.
Oronoque Westland: http://virtualability.org/default.aspx
Robin Mochi: but true, Bill F, the real challenge for my group has been hardware/bandwidth issues for distance ed students
Marc Rexen: They are starting a wide-spread survey in the Language Dept.
Marty Snowpaw: exactly...
Oronoque Westland: do we usually do assessments of our "traditional" classes?
Duncan Ramer: yes!
Oronoque Westland: at my school we need IRB, publish or not
Oronoque Westland: right...expedited
Margaret Michalski: pre and post survey?
Juice Gyoza: education studies are exempt
Bill Friis: Wow. That sounds like CYA IRB.
Duncan Ramer: grins
Toi Kohime: ty for ranting:)
AJ Brooks: right - so in that case, are you meeting your learning objectives
Identity Euler is Offline
Toi Kohime: new learning objectives? what kind?
Toi Kohime: how do they differ?
Duncan Ramer: I find all my learning objectives have changed dramatically
Marty Snowpaw: Going to give a Key Note about the need for Assessment at VWBPE: Luyen Chou (RL) Luyen Afterthought (SL) School Net http://www.mouse.org/about/board/chou.html
AJ Brooks: how have they changed, Duncan
Marc Rexen: Coming to the podium..
AJ Brooks: HIII!!!!
Oronoque Westland: hi
Robin Mochi: hello :)
Toi Kohime: Greetings!
Shawnta Clarence: who is speaking please
Susana Rexen: great
Susana Rexen: great
Duncan Ramer: I don't teach SL but in math per se teaching gemo. and alg. through building
Oronoque Westland: simulations at Duke?
AJ Brooks: nice
AJ Brooks: canyou type in the island name?
Oronoque Westland: taking the "distance" out of distance ed
Margaret Michalski: Does the simulation use bots?
Shawnta Clarence: Duke recognizes that you can create your environment, simulation level fulfilling the promise
Duncan Ramer: they learn to build and in that they learn angels vectors, working in and on all three axis
Juice Gyoza: you need an avite
Marc Rexen: Someone asked the island name...have to be invited.
Juice Gyoza: im lauban lane
AJ Brooks: we do need them to come up to the mic or at lease repeat back
Juice Gyoza: thats Newman from Duke
AJ Brooks: thanks for sharing, Newman!!!
AJ Brooks: LOL
Marc Rexen: We're going to send them to the mic.
Shawnta Clarence: Newman would u please add me as a friend
Duncan Ramer: NNC?
AJ Brooks: New Media Consortium
AJ Brooks: they have a HUGE presence here in SL
KaLynne Silvercloud: Cathy Anderson from SD BOR glad to see some other SDhere..
Duncan Ramer: thanks
AJ Brooks: open map and type in NMC and you'll see lots-o-islands
AJ Brooks: plus they ahve special fee based rentals for edu
Duncan Ramer: so my objectives are not complete these worksheets . . . but complete this project and why does it work or not work
Shawnta Clarence: Univ Wisc Milwaukee - role plays and learning Objectives,
AJ Brooks: lol
Shawnta Clarence: lots of experiential learning,
Oronoque Westland: I was in Paris seconds before this meeting, now I'm in New Jersey with AJ
Magdalena Easterwood: having a safe place where kids could start this kind of sim young would really be advantageous.
Robin Mochi: yes, global communication/connections are huge value of VWs
Geo Meek: /:-)
Shawnta Clarence: students attend conferences, go to manpower, be interviewed and interview others, higher order learning
Magdalena Easterwood: by the time they got to university they would be real world problem solvers of ability
Duncan Ramer: yes I think younger students would be a great thing
Magdalena Easterwood: we need to let the power they have as kids start young.
AJ Brooks: how many of the people in Chicago in the room are also here in world with us?
Shawnta Clarence: Patrick from Illinois State - under what conditions is virtual learning advantageous?
Cahalane Zepp: there are a few videos on youtube concerning SL and users with disabilities.
Geo Meek: /hehe
Bill Friis: SL has some of the advantages of on-line anonymity, but with a face to face feel.
Geo Meek: /vary good point
Margaret Michalski: do you see any disadvantages of using text only vs. voice?
Shawnta Clarence: No need to give lectures in SL
AJ Brooks: how many of the people in Chicago in the room are also here in world with us?
Geo Meek: /i dont read well
Marc Rexen: Yes, voice is about 4X faster and less "misunderstood."
AJ Brooks: but if you are deaf, voice is not an option
AJ Brooks: and there is no voice transcript
AJ Brooks: so - I have a question
Oronoque Westland: Wheelies - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Taupo/168/91/23; Naughty Auties http://slurl.com/secondlife/Crystal%20Isles/165/225/22; Cape Able http://slurl.com/secondlife/Cape%20Able/160/112/2
Magdalena Easterwood: visual is very powerful learning medium
Marc Rexen: Same issue for real classes AJ...not a good reason not to use voice.
Marty Snowpaw: Speak Easy is great tool for getting text into chat
AJ Brooks: no - our school provides signers
Gwynna Cleanslate: And voice has its problems, as we have heard here.
Cahalane Zepp: Believe journal of virtual worlds has a call for papers with reagrds to virtual worlds and health/medical aspect
Marc Rexen: Eventually, we might get avatars sufficient for sign language.
AJ Brooks: plus - we get a lot more diverse crowd, especially for meetings, and people from other countries, who don't speak English, come to the meetings
AJ Brooks: they might not if they had to talk - but they may be willing to chat
AJ Brooks: anyway - this is aside from assessment
Cahalane Zepp: IBM are developing virtual world for blind also.
Shawnta Clarence: What are additional issues with assessment of SL usage
Marc Rexen: ...and since we've got mics...we in a perfect space for text to speech....which why it hasn't dev eloped yet is vexing.
Shawnta Clarence: AJ - there are certain things we can do in Virtual
Toi Kohime: eco
Oronoque Westland: The Universal Translator available for free at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Grignano/100/94/27
Duncan Ramer: HAHAHAHAAH
Marty Snowpaw: because it is affective education
Shawnta Clarence: AJ - what is stopping us from doing assessment
Duncan Ramer: Just doing I think!
Whitney2008 Weezles: fear of something new I think
Marc Rexen: Assessing what AJ...you're trying to assess the value of the "emotional bandwidth" available within SL.
Duncan Ramer: not one thing
Marty Snowpaw: the assessment is anecdotal
Duncan Ramer: we just aren't
Duncan Ramer: ourselves
Bill Friis: time
AJ Brooks: right
AJ Brooks: we need more than anecdotal assessment
Whitney2008 Weezles: will assessment make us better or make us more valid in educators views? I wonder.
KaLynne Silvercloud: that's right or the learning curve associated witht hat for themselves and students..
AJ Brooks: teachers can't get promoted on anecdotal
Jacqueline Despres: do people feel they're chasing a moving target -- trying to measure as they design?
Oronoque Westland: Max the Virtual Guide Dog at Wheelies on the Water http://slurl.com/secondlife/Taupo/168/91/23
Marc Rexen: Agreed Marty, because I'm not sure we have the tools or approaches necessary to value "presence" as important...it is, but how do assess it?
Toi Kohime: yes Jacqueline that was my challenge
Marty Snowpaw: if the driver is whether you get merit pay and not education yes you are right
Toi Kohime: measuring as you design
AJ Brooks: lost voice
Gwynna Cleanslate: In my high school, we do not assess the efficacy of any particular technological tool; we do however have to justify our use of the tools as we plan the lesson
Marty Snowpaw: the benefits are indirect
Marty Snowpaw: and hard to test for
Robin Mochi: I think it's just starting to happen still, we published our first paper recently on a class taught last summer and I'm teaching my first course now and do plan to assess and publish
Oronoque Westland: at my school new faculty get evaluated....courses???
Marc Rexen: Talking about assessing learning, not the tech.
Juice Gyoza: from Patrick -- he was saying you can take your f2f activity and put it in sl and then assess whether you achieved your learning objective
Marc Rexen: Profferring the use of an engagement scale.
Jacqueline Despres: but remember, we're not trying to measure the benefits -- we're tying to measure learning effectiveness, right?
Duncan Ramer: I don't care about promotion . . . . My students need to learn If I don't assess I don't know what is going on
Marc Rexen: Interpersonal scale.
Magdalena Easterwood: design tool for assessment
Juice Gyoza: measuring engagement -- if they are engaged, they will learn
Marc Rexen: ...does feeling connection with other students lead to better and deeper learning?
Marty Snowpaw: yes you need to assess but what are the tools
Robin Mochi: ours will be on assessing learning while using the SL technology
Geo Meek: /voice is braking
AJ Brooks: Agreed, Duncan, to some extent - but we (industry) don't do a good job of assessing non-technical classes
Marty Snowpaw: correct AJ
Marc Rexen: Comment that Faculty are skeptical and have a right to be skeptical.
KaLynne Silvercloud: yes it does the social networking that builds knowledge, validates what students know and what they can learn from each other.
Jacqueline Despres: yes, I think Robin Mochi has it right -- measure the learning effectiveness -- don't waste time measuring the affordances of the texhnology
Duncan Ramer: I think a universal assessment is not practical . . . the tool is not as important as the knowledge gained
AJ Brooks: who mentioned SPEAK EASY a few minutes ago?
Oronoque Westland: the technology needed to be assessed before bringing the class in-world, no?
KaLynne Silvercloud: maybe social networking isn't the right term but a learning network that can occur between students that builds knowledge
Margaret Michalski: open ended questions or multiple choice format?
Duncan Ramer: that would be better I think
Teri Boxen: yes
Geo Meek: Good !
Geo Meek: point
Geo Meek: sorry
Robin Mochi: yes, for some of us time is a major issue...but still assessment is important if we're to move forward at my university
Whitney2008 Weezles: I agree Robin
Teri Boxen: i appreciate this,
Teri Boxen: this is good stuff
KaLynne Silvercloud: yes assessment is important as well as possibly how accreditation bodies may look at this..
Marc Rexen: comment that a data driven culture is catching on.
Oronoque Westland: is part of the problem that when using SL we need more course development time than we actually have?
Geo Meek: you can do that with video
Whitney2008 Weezles: We do Oronoque
Gwynna Cleanslate: We do, Oronoque
Whitney2008 Weezles: Training is so key to this I think.
Duncan Ramer: our state funding is gone too
Teri Boxen: is there a group form nurse educators
Marty Snowpaw: There is a disconnect when a learning experience is immersive and about effecting motivation, engagement, co-creation, etc and then giving a standard test that only judges information transfer
Thompson Dawes: substantial delays, and openmic feedback
Toi Kohime: the testing should be as engaging
Oronoque Westland: livens things up
MathBear Cyberschreiber: I have a comment. Of what importance is the subject you are teaching. My focus is heavily on teaching math. Not much math teaching is currently being done.
Margaret Michalski: Would assessment convince more people to use SL for teaching in all fields or certain fields?
KaLynne Silvercloud: The learning environment facilitates groups work...etc., what I have been questioning is how this is different from developing courses for a Learning management system and face to face or is this going to be a blend of the two..
Duncan Ramer: I think there is a lot of math being taught
Juice Gyoza: there is k-12 math
Juice Gyoza: I have visited a couple places
Duncan Ramer: I teach 9-12 math in sl
KaLynne Silvercloud: the technologies used are whiteboards, integrated web browsers, etc..
Oronoque Westland: xyz sim is math oriented and the crooked house is there
Robin Mochi: yes, SLED is most valuable to me
Oronoque Westland: xyz
Geo Meek: /there are a few
Bill Friis: All must be on SLED list, and sign up digest.
Oronoque Westland: yes xyz
Thompson Dawes: please turn down your radio
Bill Friis: http://slurl.com/secondlife/xyz/128/128/2
Duncan Ramer: LOL
Thompson Dawes: :-)
Gwynna Cleanslate: unfortunately, most k-12 education is done on the teen grid, which is not conducive to individual teachers seeking to integrate SL into the classroom, but rather for whole schools to engage entire student pop's.
Geo Meek: someone has a open mic
Geo Meek: and no headset\\
Thompson Dawes: Science Fridays and Siland Sim also good resources
Geo Meek: /wonderful
AJ Brooks: EXCELLENT!!!!!!
Jacqueline Despres: LOL
AJ Brooks: BRAVO!!!!!!
Bill Friis: Perhaps just slightly snotty about it.
Geo Meek: /simple tools for new people
Oronoque Westland: pass the tissues
AJ Brooks: "I know you are but what am I?"
Teri Boxen: are there groups of specific educators tto meet together, like nursing
Oronoque Westland: how has being in SL impacted RL teaching?
Geo Meek: /if you teach you should know
Marc Rexen: Talking about that assessment comes well after one gets familiar with SL.
Thompson Dawes: indeed
Geo Meek: :-)
KaLynne Silvercloud: book: Evaluation in Distance Education and E Learning not specific to 2nd life as a learning environment but a great deal about assessment in distance education authors Valerie Ruge and Bruno D. Zumbo
KaLynne Silvercloud: Valerie Ruhe
Thompson Dawes: like they still look
Marc Rexen: Oh, Chicago folks, I have copy of Space Between People with me (the one Pathfinder rightly raved about on the SLED list).
Oronoque Westland: AJ encourages peeping
Magdalena Easterwood: yes!!!!
Bill Friis shudders at the phrase "Ban Lines"
Geo Meek: hehe
KaLynne Silvercloud: great observation
Geo Meek: /let IBM hanfel that
Geo Meek: handel
KaLynne Silvercloud: should be not observed as better or worse but different...
Whitney2008 Weezles: Many biases exist about teaching and learning that need to be overcome.
KaLynne Silvercloud: and how is quality of learning assessed in that..
Juice Gyoza: can't hear
Bill Friis: Right. Don't need to compare video and textbook to use both.
KaLynne Silvercloud: but does that make sense to make that comparison..
Bill Friis: Question is, does it make sense to those who want the assessment done.
Thompson Dawes: thank you Chicago
Whitney2008 Weezles: Thanks - wonderful idea here!
Bill Friis: Adios, Chi town.
Margaret Michalski: Thank you!
Geo Meek: maybe next time we should do a video?
KaLynne Silvercloud: thanks very much..
Shawnta Clarence: i crashed
Oronoque Westland: thank you Chicago...hope to see you all in-world
AJ Brooks: sorry.afk@gmail.com
Aerdna Beaumont: thanks very much!
Marcia Kjeller: thanks, Chicago, and thanks AJ for all your efforts
Marc Rexen: It's rainy and cold here in Chicago...:)
Bill Friis: Snowing in Bozeman.
Robin Mochi: yes, nice chatting with folks in Chicago and everyone here too :)
AJ Brooks: buh-bye!
Geo Meek: great meeting
Geo Meek: (enthusiastic applause)
Geo Meek: (enthusiastic applause)
KaLynne Silvercloud: ty
Robin Mochi: Gotta run, thanks, AJ and all
Arelle Finesmith: thank you!
lynsey Fleury: thanks everyone:)
Vincent Badger: thanks
Whitney2008 Weezles: It will be here in SL too?
Duncan Ramer: cool
Bill Friis teaches in RL at that time, or would attend often.
Whitney2008 Weezles: west in sl??
Duncan Ramer: someone needs to take my intro to sl class
Duncan Ramer: LOL
Whitney2008 Weezles: I took a couple shots
Margaret Michalski: just a sec
Whitney2008 Weezles: your email again please?
Bill Friis: Must go. Adios. Much thanks.
Margaret Michalski: Iggy Email; iggyo@mac.com
lynsey Fleury: have to go too, thank you and see you soon again
Duncan Ramer: Thanks everyone see you again soon
Geo Meek: the tool is ever changing
JeanClaude Vollmar: Good bye all. I have to go too.
Geo Meek: :-)
Marcia Kjeller: *quiety slips out the back door, whispering: thank you for a great meeting.*
Margaret Michalski: Can you send an announcement about that?
Whitney2008 Weezles: How do we learn about that village? cool
Marty Snowpaw: Will be a great presentation
Whitney2008 Weezles: sounds exciting
Whitney2008 Weezles: who can join that presentation?
Turterelle Cuttita: thanks so much from Switzerland , any one needs French klasses ask me
Oronoque Westland: http://www.vwbpe.org
Oronoque Westland: http://wiki.vwbpe.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
Oronoque Westland: /I appreciate more the need for doing assessments in all my courses since working in SL
Margaret Michalski: WeGame does not work very well for long meetings
Pathfinder Linden is Offline
Geo Meek: :-)
Margaret Michalski: depends how many people are present
Geo Meek: /it takes time
Geo Meek: /;-)
Thompson Dawes: moving targets
Oronoque Westland: /if voice-to-text technology improves more I think there will be less resistance
Oronoque Westland: BIG RULER
Geo Meek: /:-)
Oronoque Westland: Zo also
Oronoque Westland: mentioned Dragon
Oronoque Westland: Naturally speaking
Oronoque Westland: big system demands
Oronoque Westland: but a teacher could use voice
MathBear Cyberschreiber: Oronoque, the translator will work better if you use complete sentences to provide context.
Oronoque Westland: and let Dragon do the text
Geo Meek: /:-)
Geo Meek: /please to meet you
Oronoque Westland: Saturday morning has important Brazilian and Portuguese panels at the conference
Geo Meek: ooooooooooooh... yyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaah....
Aerdna Beaumont: smiles
MathBear Cyberschreiber: I am impressed at how active Brazil is on SL.
Toi Kohime: ok great
Geo Meek: /US is falling way behind in sl
Aerdna Beaumont: i will be in panel on Saturday
Marty Snowpaw: Brazil and Portugal will have a huge presence at VWBPE
Toi Kohime: yes ty AJ
Marty Snowpaw: running sessions in Portuguese
Marty Snowpaw: Portugese
Geo Meek: /this was a great metting if you need me please call i do teach the bata video making Thanky you for your time Sir
MathBear Cyberschreiber: I know Spanish well, but I cannot follow spoken Portuguese.
Geo Meek: :-)
Aerdna Beaumont: yes
Aerdna Beaumont: Yes...
Aerdna Beaumont: tordesilhas
Margaret Michalski: Thanks AJ!
Oronoque Westland: thanks AJ...great discussion
Margaret Michalski: I will see you tomorrow!
Margaret Michalski: These meeting keep me going
Thompson Dawes: Indeed thank you both very informative
Oronoque Westland: and she has a great display
Margaret Michalski: Thanks everyone!
Vincent Badger: thanks a lot guys
MathBear Cyberschreiber: You are most welcome. I am glad I came. ^,..,^
Shawnta Clarence: Thank you - really enjoyed the meeting today.
Margaret Michalski: See you tomorrow!
Aerdna Beaumont: thanks all!
Irix Ladybird: thank you, see you!