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Name 'Saier IV' de QUINCY "1st Earl of Winchester"
Birth 1155, Winchester, Hampshire, ENGLAND
Death 3 Nov 1219, Damietta, PALESTINE Age: 64
Occupation Royalty
Father Robert de QUINCY
Mother Orabella de LEUCHARS
Spouses
1 Margaret de BEAUMONT
Birth abt 1149
Death 1232 Age: 83
Father 'Robert III' de BEAUMONT "3rd Earl of Leicester" (1130-1190)
Mother Petronilla de GRENTEMESNIL (1134-1212)
Children Roger (~1174-1264)
Lorette
John
Reginald
Robert "the Elder" (~1186-)
Hawise (1178-)
Arabella
Notes for 'Saier IV' de QUINCY "1st Earl of Winchester"
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Saier's marriage to his wife, Margaret De Beaumont, ultimately made him very wealthy. When Margaret's only brother, Robert Fitz-Pernel, died in 1204, she became his heiress and Saier succeeded to a part of Robert's vast estates in Leicester and Grandmesnil. Saier was the royal Justice in many counties and King John "Lackland" Plantagenet made him the first Earl of Winchester in 1210. King John's reign was a difficult one and the barons were very unhappy with the state of affairs. Saire joined the barons' rebellion against King John. The rebel barons, including Saier, went to Paris in 1216 to talk to King Louis VIII of France. They offered Louis the throne of England if he would help them in their cause against King John. Louis agreed and led an expedition to England. Saier was a principal commander in Louis' fight; however, they were defeated at the Battle of Lincoln and Louis returned to France. Saier's lands were seized for his part in the rebellion and he was taken prisoner by the royalists. King John had died in 1216., and now, Saier submitted to the rule of John's sone, King Henry III, and all of Saier's lands were restored to him. In 1218, he went to the Holy Land but shortly after his arrival, he became ill and died.

MISC: Earl of Wincester, Magna Carta Surety, 1215, Crusader 1219 (son of Robert de Quincy, d . ca. 1198), Lord of Buckley and of Fawside, Crusader; m. Orabella, dau. of Ness; and grandso n of Maud de St. Liz by her 2nd husb., Saher de Quincy of Buckley and Daventry. He was a Baron present at Lincoln when WILLIAM the Lion of Scotland did homage to the English monarch in October 1200. He obtained large grants and immunities form King JOHN and was created Earl of Winchester on 2 Mar 1207, having been governor in 1203 of the Castle of Ruil in Normandy. He is credited with rewriting the Magna Charta from the Charts of King HENRY I and the Saxon Code . Because he had opposed the King's concession to Pope's legate, he was bitterly hated by King JOHN. One of the Barons to whom the City and Tower of London were resigned, SAIRE was excommunicated with the other Barons the following year. He was sent, with ROBERT FITZWALTER, the Surety, by the other Barons, to invite the Dauphin of France to assume the Crown of England and, even after the death of King JOHN, he kept a strong garrison in Montsorell Castle in behalf of Prince LOUIS. When the Barons, being greatly outnumbered, were defeated by the troops of King HENRY III, SAIRE was made prisoner and his estates were forfeited. In the following October his immense estates were restored upon his submission. In 1218 the Earl of Winchester went with the Earls of Chester and Arundel to the Holy Land, assisted at the siege of Damietta in 1219, and died on 3 Nov of the same year, on the way to Jerusalem.

SAIRE is associated with two stalwart Castles in the South of England: Colchester and Winchester, both with the Latin "castrum" root, signifying that they were once the sites of Roman forts. Colchester was the largest Norman keep in England. It measures one hundred fifty-two by one hundred seventeeen feet, enclosing nearly twice the area of the Tower of London. Its walls vary between eleven and thirty feet in thickness. Winchester Castle was first erected by WILLIAM the Conqueror with later alterations by HENRY III.

Earl of Manchester and signer of the Magna Charta. When the baronial war broke out, his lordship's pennant waved on the side of freedom and he became so eminent amongst those sturdy chiefs that he was chosen one of the celebrated twenty-five barons appointed to enforce the observance of Magna Carta. Adhering to the same party after the accession of Henry III, the Earl of Winchester had a principal command at the battle of Lincoln and, there being defeated, was taken prisoner by the royalists. But submitting in the following October, he had restitution of all his lands and proceeded soon after, in company with the Earls of Chester and Arundel and others of the nobility, to the Holy Land where he assisted at the sieg e of Damietta, anno 1219, and d. the same year in his progress towards Jerusalem.
[Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd. , London, England, 1883, p. 447, Quincy, Earls of Winchester]

Saire de Quincy was born before 1154. He was the Joint Governor of Normandy 1180-1184. He was the Steward of England 1205-1207. He was created Earl of Winchester, by King John in 1207. He was present at Lincoln, when William, King of Scotland, did homage to the English monarch, and he subsequently obtained large grants and immunities from King John; when, however, the baronial war broke out, his pennant waved on the side of freedom, and he became so eminent among the chiefs, that he was chosen one of the twenty-five barons, a Surety, appointed to enforce the observance of the Magna Charta, in 1215. Adhering to the same party, after the accession of King Henry III, the Earl of Winchester had a principal command at the battle of Lincoln, and there being defeated, he was taken prisoner by the royalists. But submitting in the following October, he had restitution of all his lands; and proceeded soon after in company with the Earls of Chester and Arundel, and others of the nobility, to the Holy Land. A leader of the First Crusade, he assisted at the siege of Damietta, in 1219, and died in the Holy Land on November 3, 1219, progressing toward Jerusalem. He married Margaret Bellomont (Beaumont), granddaughter of Isabel Vermandois and great granddaughter of Hugh Magnus of France. She was sister and co-heir of Richard Fitz Parnell, Earl of Leicester, by which alliance her husband Saire de Quincy acquired a very considerable inheritance.

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