Sunday, May 4, 2008

Fetus Fetishists

A bit of an uproar in some of the blogs I read about a supposed pro-choice blogger decrying the use of the above term to attack those who claim to be "pro-life". Dave, Cathie, and Matt all do a fine job of responding to this call for civility for the pro-choice crowd, and I simply recommend reading them rather than trying to come up with some lesser rant of my own.

Frankly, the first time I saw the term, I thought it was rather descriptive of the folks who shove pictures of aborted fetus' at you and plant them on billboards and placards in front of abortion clinics. Besides, I don't base any of my positions on the tactics used by the most extreme elements of their proponents, but on the logic of the position itself.

I simply don't get someone thinking that the people who use the term are in any way in the same league as people who scream "murderer" at women and doctors who have had or who performed abortions; harassment, vandalism, assualts, and in extreme cases, bombing abortion clinics and assassinating medical personal.

I just don't see any equivalency there. Be civil with those who actually are; uncivil with those who won't be. Real fighting is ugly, get used to it.

So how's that "big state strategy" working out for you?

CNN has learned that top staff members of Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign were asked to work without pay for the month of January, and perhaps longer, so that campaign resources could be focused on the Florida Republican presidential primary.

Two sources in the campaign, speaking on condition of anonymity, insisted the campaign was not in dire financial straits. A third campaign source, however, said "things are starting to get tight" and that "it was more telling than asking" the senior staff to forgo paychecks beginning the first of the year.


I take it as an encouraging sign that Giuliani's campaign is on the way out. Despite the fact that I once thought he might be the best candidate for the Democrats to run against, given his impressively large and overflowing skeleton closet, I'd just as soon see him bow out early so there's less chance of him trying out his authoritarian tendencies.

"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."


Yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing I learnt about freedom in school. Great lines like, "Give me liberty! so I can cede it to the government and they can tell me what to do!"

Yep! No dictatorial tendencies there at all. /snark.

Of course, according to Jonah Goldberg, that would be his latent liberalism coming through.

Aim for the heart, not the head

John Cole isn't feeling the love for Obama, and even approvingly links to a story by Karl Rove, the point of which is that Obama's just too good at the rhetoric and doesn't bore us all to death explaining in excruciating detail what his policy positions are. After all, listening to boring policy speeches is how we should be making our decisions about who to elect.

And frankly, that's probably true, but I don't recall hearing any detailed policy speeches from any candidate. I'm sure all of them, including Obama, have made a few by now, but the simple truth is that few people pay too close of attention to such things. Detailed policy papers aren't the most riveting of reading, and listening to people drone on about them is a good way to ensure that most people just tune right out.

Via John Robb, Dave Winer posted just how these things get decided:

A lot of my friends on Twitter dismiss Huckabee, and to be clear, I could not vote for a Republican this year, no matter who their candidate is, but he is a fantastic American personality. Elections are all about feelings, not policies or positions or even records as the pundits insist. Who you vote for is a function of how you feel about the country and the world in relation to yourself. The candidate who comes closest to validating your feelings is the person you vote for.


Emotion drives elections. Huckabee is doing well in large part because he's likable and funny, regardless of the fact that he's a religious nut with the foreign policy understanding of my two-year old neice. Part of Hillary's "comeback" in NH is credited on her welling up and showing emotion. Appealing to emotion and sending out a message of hope is how that other Clinton became president. Bush beat Gore in part because he was, "the guy you wanted to have a beer with", and Kerry because the Democrats thought uninspiring substance and policy was the way to go.

Obama inspires people, and that can't be discounted. Hillary also inspires people, the problem is that it's mostly the Republicans who go all frothy-mouthed at the mere mention of the name, "Clinton". As Balloon Juice commenter Krista notes:

There are obviously people who have qualms or doubts about Obama. But when it really comes down to it, on election day, if Obama IS indeed the candidate, would those people stay home rather than vote for him? They might grumble, but I still think they’d much rather have Obama than any Republican.

My concern is that with Hillary, there are not just people on the Dem side who have reservations about her, there are people who actively loathe her, and who really WOULD stay home rather than vote for her on election day. Conversely, I fear that a Hillary nomination would bring out Republican voters in record numbers – they just hate her that much.

The most important thing is that a Democrat is elected president. Full stop. It’s time to clean house and make the Republicans clean out their house before they’re given the reins again.

Obama, Clinton, Edwards—any of them are capable, and any of them would do a better job than Bush (Hell, my 10-year-old nephew would do a better job than Bush. Kid’s got more money invested than I do.) The question is: who’s going to bring out the most voters on the Dem side?

All in how you look at it

From the Washington Post:

New Estimate of Violent Deaths Among Iraqis Is Lower

A new survey estimates that 151,000 Iraqis died from violence in the three years following the U.S.-led invasion of the country. Roughly 9 out of 10 of those deaths were a consequence of U.S. military operations, insurgent attacks and sectarian warfare.

. . .

The three-year toll of violent deaths calculated in the survey is one-quarter the size of that found in a smaller survey by Iraqi and Johns Hopkins University researchers published in the journal Lancet in 2006.


And from the New York Times:

W.H.O. Says Iraq Civilian Death Toll Higher Than Cited

The World Health Organization on Wednesday waded into the controversial subject of Iraqi civilian deaths, publishing a study that estimated that the number of deaths from the start of the war through June 2006 was at least twice as high as the oft-cited Iraq Body Count.


Spin the numbers however you like, it still comes out as a lot of people getting killed.

Right-wing heads to explode in 3, 2, ...

Bush says Israel must cede land

Israeli occupation of Arab land taken in 1967 must end, US President George W Bush has said.

Speaking after two days of talks with Israeli and Palestinian leaders, he re-affirmed US commitment to an Israel inside secure and defensible borders.

He also said there must be a viable Palestinian state, and a solution to the refugee issue which would involve compensation payments.


I need popcorn.

UK Blasphemy Law

I'm more than a little surprised to find out they still have this on the books, and that the government is still uncertain whether or not they should get rid of it.

The government has "every sympathy" for the case for abolishing blasphemy laws, Justice Minister Maria Eagle has said.

Speaking at the end of a debate on proposals to scrap the laws, she told MPs they wanted to first consult the Church of England.


Consult the Church of England? Nice to see that the secular government needs to go ask permission of the Church before changing the laws. It's like the right always says, Christianity has completely vanished as a force in European life.

More on point is this comment:

"The Almighty does not really need the protection of these ridiculous laws and that's why large numbers of people of a religious perspective share the view that these offences need to be abolished," he said.


I mean, if your god is all-powerful, then why get so worried about somebody saying nasty things about him? Such laws are less about belief and more about power.

Dr Harris's amendment to the bill comes after leading figures, including former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey, wrote to the Daily Telegraph on Tuesday, arguing the legislation was discriminatory as it only covers attacks on Christianity and Church of England beliefs.

The letter said it served "no useful purpose" and offered Christian activists a means to intimidate broadcasters, publishers and performers.

The High Court last month rejected an attempt by a Christian evangelical group to prosecute the director general of the BBC for blasphemy over the screening of the musical Jerry Springer - The Opera.


Too true. The ability to launch lawsuits, even nuisance ones you know you're going to lose, can both raise your profile and bleed money from those you disagree with. Shutting down the opportunities this medieval relic presents is a victory for free speech. Here's hoping they get it done soon.

So . . .

Was it backlash for the misogyny of the media or the Bradley effect?

It has been quite interesting watching everyone scramble to explain why the polls for the Democrats in New Hampshire were so far off. (Added to the above are some theories regarding Diebold voting machines.)

It is possible, of course, that the polls just happened to be wrong. One data point does not a trend make. It will be interesting to see what happens in future battles.

And ultimately, New Hampshire means that there will be future battles, (on both sides), before anything is decided. And the emerging consensus seems to be that that is good news:

The Clinton campaign has announced its plans. It's going to fight for Nevada and South Carolina, as well as the "Super Duper Tuesday" states.

For those of us who want as long a primary season as possible, so more Democratic voters will have the opportunity to meaningfully participate in the choice of a nominee, this is good news.


The highlighted portion being the significant part to me, since there is nothing more annoying than having an election decided before you've had a chance to cast a vote. And, according to Sullivan, the NH result carries a silver lining for Obama as well.

Some home truths: a tough, long primary battle will take the sting out of the powerful backlash that he is the function of a fad of euphoria, marketing hype, or gas-baggery. It will take the edge off the criticism that he is untested. It will help him prove his mettle and endurance.


Ah well, another week of watching people try and figure out the political tea leaves before the Michigan primary. I must thank the voters in Iowa and New Hampshire for making the race an interesting one.

Update:

According to Libby, it was a little of "all of the above", and I have to say I agree with her that its the most plausible explanation.

New Hampshire

McCain and Clinton win this time 'round.

On the Republican side, Thompson, with 1% of the vote last I checked, should probably start napping outside of the debates and bow out of the race shortly. Otherwise, the strong second by Romney and distant third by Huckabee, plus the possiblity that Guiliani's "big state" strategy might actually work, means the field is still very much open.

For the Democrats, the polls showing a huge shift towards Obama were obviously flawed, but I believe he still closed the gap of where he was pre-Iowa. The real question is where this leaves Edwards?

Oh, and I'd love to hear Gloria Steinem's take on Hillary's victory.

Boats a-blundering

So some sort of confrontation seems to have occurred between the Iranians and the US Navy in the Strait of Hormuz. Like Cernig, I don't trust either official version and was waiting for more information before posting anything.

Some people, of course, have conclusions ready to hand:

We should've sunk every one of them.

Not because we're warmongers. But because the Iranians had made threats, verbal and physical, that amounted to acts of war. When will we learn that resolute action taken early saves vast amounts of blood and treasure later?


Because nothing saves blood and treasure like starting wars without proper preparation or forethought. But the real kicker is just how much Mr. Peters apparently knows about the internal workings of the Iranian regime:

Sunday's incident wasn't a one-off event improvised by the local yokels after a long Saturday night at the hookah bar. It was blessed and carefully planned in Tehran and had practical as well as political goals.

At the tactical level, the Revolutionary Guards' naval arm was testing our responses: How soon do the American weapons radars activate? At what range do the lasers begin to track targets? How close can a small vessel get to a major American warship? How do the Americans respond to possible mines? Can we use phony mines to steer them into real ones? How long does it take an American commander to make a decision?

Above all: Does an American commander have the courage to make a decision on his own? When he doesn't have time to deflect responsibility onto his superiors?

And it wasn't just some madrassa dropout with salt spray on his glasses scribbling notes on the lead Iranian boat. On shore, the Iranians would've had all their intelligence facilities tuned in to map our electronic profile as our ships prepared to defend themselves. Rent-a-Russian military experts would've been onhand to assist with the newest gear purchased from Moscow.

The Iranians may even have had an escalation plan, in case we opened fire. President Ahmedinejad and his posse may seem contemptible to Washington, but the Iranians think several moves ahead of us: We play checkers, they play chess.


I can certainly agree with that last sentence, with the caveat that Bush is a damn poor checkers player to boot. I have to hand to the guy; suspecting the Iranians were prepared for an escalation of an incident the US Navy was obviously unprepared for and yet still calling for them to open up on the Iranians regardless of the consequences. As is always the case with warmongers who don't have to face the consequences personally.

Anyway, reading another account of the incident brought this information to light:

Cosgriff said the five Iranian boats, outfitted with outboard motors and carrying three to four people each, rapidly approached three U.S. warships — cruiser USS Port Royal, destroyer USS Hopper and frigate USS Ingraham, which were passing through the Strait into the Gulf.


So we're basically talking little speedboats here. Two things come to mind; the first being an account of a war simulation carried out before the Iraq War where the "Red Team" commander sunk a good chunk of the naval forces arrayed against him by using small suicide speedboats in imitation of the USS Cole attack, which explains the nervousness of the naval forces here.

The other was a description of the Gulf traffic in a post I read some time back, (I forget where), that mentioned that IRGC members have a habit of running smuggled goods across the Gulf in such small boats, weaving in and out of the heavy traffic. That post too warned that such activity could find itself causing a confrontation with US naval forces.

I find myself wondering if the white boxes the crews were supposedly tossing over the sides of their boats weren't illicit goods they didn't want to be caught with while their buddies distracted the authorities?

At this point, it's as good an explanation as any.

I'm surprised

that you guys are shocked by this. The ignorance of Americans regarding the rest of the world is legendary enough to have become a stereotype. Last I heard, at least a third of them can't find the US on a world map. Their efforts in finding countries like Iraq, Iran, Israel, and Saudi Arabia shouldn't surprise anyone, unfortunately.

On average, young Americans can find one (1.3) of these four countries. Fourteen percent can point out all four countries correctly, while 44% cannot find any of them.

After three years of war in Iraq, only 37% of young Americans can find Iraq; 63% cannot. As many can—and cannot—identify Saudi Arabia. The result is even worse for Iran and Israel. Only one in four can find Iran (26%) or Israel (25%). Three-quarters cannot find these two countries. Overall, up to one in five say they “don’t know” where these four countries are located (ranging from 16% for Iraq to 20% for Iran).

Education makes a difference in young adults’ ability to locate these four countries in the headlines: young Americans with college experience (1.6 correct answers on average) are more likely than those with up to a high school education (0.9 correct) to locate these countries. That said, even the more educated group fares relatively poorly, with less than a quarter of those with a college education able to find all four countries (23%, 6% of those with up to a high school diploma).


On the other hand, I suppose I should stop trying to convince people of the dangers of Iran blocking the Strait of Hormuz by imploring them to, "look at the map". From the above, it's mostly wasted effort.

Vote Hillary, you sexist pigs!

I don't often link to Ed Morrissey, but he nails what Gloria Steinem is saying in this column.

What Steinem demands is that voters stop considering Hillary as Hillary, and instead think of her as Generic Woman. Steinem doesn't want equality of opportunity; she wants grievances addressed. And she makes it clear that Women come before Black Men on the grievance agenda, writing "Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women[.]"

It's time for Generic Woman, not Black Man, on Steinem's dance card. Sorry, Barack. You're not scheduled to be Generic Black Man until 2016.


I do believe, and can if pressed come up with considerable evidence of, the fact that women in politics have a rough go of things. But I had always though that the liberal ideal was that people be chosen on their merits rather than some physical quality. This kind of shameless pandering to identity politics is a sign of desperation from Clinton supporters.

And as for the title of Steinem's article, Hillary was, and in some measures still is, the front-runner for the Democratic nomination from before she even announced her candidacy. Hell, she even polled better among blacks than Obama did last I checked. The nomination is hers to lose.

But what worries me is that he is seen as unifying by his race while she is seen as divisive by her sex.


Obama is seen as unifying because he preaches unity in his campaign. Hillary is seen as divisive because of the name Clinton and all the baggage that accompanies it. His race and her gender aren't the critical factors here, particularly among the progressive voters in the Democratic primaries.

We have to be able to say: “I’m supporting her because she’ll be a great president and because she’s a woman.”


If I believed the first, I wouldn't need to add the second.

Clinton - no longer inevitable

I don't know if some of the latest polls in New Hampshire showing Obama opening a double-digit lead are really accurate. We'll find out tommorrow. What is clear, is that with Obama winning in Iowa, the race is now truly a contest.

For the longest time, the Clinton campaign looked like an unstoppable juggernaut, at least for the Democratic nomination. Her candidacy was being discussed in 2004 as a done deal. One of the reasons Al Gore listed for not wanting to be drafted was the threat of going up against the Clinton machine. even as Obama and Edwards narrowed the gap in key states, her lead in national polls was looked upon as insurmountable.

Iowa changed all of that, and New Hampshire may continue the Obama momentum. The question now is not only can Clinton recover, but apparently whether or not she even has a plan for such a contingency.

One could make the argument that Lewis's audience here wasn't voters but political reporters. And she was trying to plant the seed of their counterattack on Obama. But it all amounts to the same thing. These folks have been knocked senseless by the events of the last three days. And they seem almost incapable of even thinking straight. Through the day I got pitched, formally and informally, by various Clintonites on Obama stories, most of which were almost embarrassing to hear.

I don't use these words and phrases lightly or indiscriminately. I find it difficult to conceive of how unprepared her team was for this not-that-hard-to-predict turn of events.

What it tells me is that they never really planned for this. And they literally have no idea what to do at the clutch moment. For the now they are grasping for anything and everything.


Planning on everything going your way looks great when it works, but you don't have to look any farther than Iraq to see what happens when you haven't taken into consideration any contingencies. If the Clinton campaign really didn't plan for this easily foreseeable occurrence, it speaks a great deal about the level of judgement they have.

As noted before, experience doesn't mean much if you have bad judgement. I hope Clinton learns that in the primaries so America doesn't have to learn it during her presidency.

For those who missed it . . .

A summary of the Republican debate from a nine-year old.

Via the comments at Balloon Juice

Thinking about hitting Pakistan again

Updated below

President Bush’s senior national security advisers are debating whether to expand the authority of the Central Intelligence Agency and the military to conduct far more aggressive covert operations in the tribal areas of Pakistan.

The debate is a response to intelligence reports that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are intensifying efforts there to destabilize the Pakistani government, several senior administration officials said.


The problem with this remains much the same as when this idea was bandied about back in July, 2007; the fact that it may actually accelerate the disintegration of Pakistan, The problem was clear then.

A large Pakistani military operation in the tribal regions, coupled with American officials' calls for action, could lead many Pakistanis to believe that Musharraf is acting as a U.S. surrogate, said analysts and officials in Islamabad. That in turn, they said, would make it easier for radical Islamists to legitimize terrorist attacks as strikes against a Western conspiracy to control an Islamic state.

"The U.S. lawmakers are absolutely oblivious of the ground realities," said Gul, the retired general. But, Gul said, Musharraf's political base has been badly shaken recently — by the controversial suspension of the Supreme Court's chief justice, and then the mosque raid — and he might bend to American pressure to launch large-scale military strikes in the border region.

"He is so weak internally that he needs the American support," Gul said.

It's one of the few things about which many officials in both the government and in opposition parties agree.

"The more the United States approves of such actions, the more problems we have with the public," said one senior Pakistani government official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of U.S.-Pakistan relations. "It needs to be purely our own internal matter."

Imran Khan, a former Pakistani cricket star turned political upstart who has been vocal in his criticism of Musharraf, said approximately the same.

"Extremism is rising, because you don't fight extremism with a man perceived as an American stooge, you don't fight extremism with suppression — you fight it with a genuine democratic process," said Khan, a parliament member. "The tribal areas are out of his control, whatever leverage he had is gone now."


Musharraf's position is likely even more tenuous now, after the battle with the Supreme Court and Bhutto's assassination. He has very little legitimacy and any act on the Americans part could easily tip things irrevocably against him.

Update:

It appears the instability in Pakistan is even worse than I thought. It is so bad that people are fleeing into Afghanistan for safety!

Thousands of Pakistanis have fled into Afghanistan with the security situation deteriorating in Pakistan's tribal regions over the past week.

Hundreds of families, comprising some 6,000 mainly women and children, have been crossing the border.

The UN refugee agency says clashes between Pakistan's Shia and Sunni groups have forced people to flee.

It is the first time so many people have crossed this way as for years it was Afghans fleeing fighting.


I really don't think adding US military action to the mix would be a good idea.

McGovern on Impeachment

Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses. They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time. Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world. These are truly "high crimes and misdemeanors," to use the constitutional standard.


All true, and in a just world, that would be more than enough to impeach them, particularly given the rather less serious offense that got Clinton impeached. But with the Republicans closing ranks around them during the first six years of their reign and the Democratic leadership making jellyfish look like vertebrates, the odds aren't even worth considering.

For that matter, why wait until now to pen this little editorial? Seven years to decide, "Gee, maybe we should do something about this"? Nice words, but this part at least, is well past it due date.

I do however, agree with the last part of the article.

I believe we have a chance to heal the wounds the nation has suffered in the opening decade of the 21st century. This recovery may take a generation and will depend on the election of a series of rational presidents and Congresses.


This is the reason I think the upcoming election is one of the most important the US will face in my lifetime. I they don't change course and begin to repair the damage this administration has caused, they will be unlikely to ever recover fully from it. And that will leave the world a far worse place.

Taser Parties

On the coffee table, Shafman spreads out Taser's C2 "personal protector" weapons that the company is marketing to the public. It doesn't take long before the women are lined up in the hallway, whooping as they take turns blasting at a metallic target.


Boy, does that ever sound like fun! Has to beat tupperware and scrap-booking, in any case. And really, what could possibly go wrong with people using Tasers?

Shafman, a freelance construction consultant, says she always had a natural interest in self-defence products. She loved the idea of the Taser, which would allow her to stop an attacker from across the room without getting physical.

She tried moonlighting as a door-to-door Taser saleswoman. But years of negative press about Taser made it tough.

"I got tired of being pushed out of people's offices," she says. "Nobody wants to purchase a product that they think is lethal or going to kill somebody."


Yeah, there is that aspect, isn't there? This is a weapon that trained police officers have shown a willingness to use far too frequently as a substitute for negotiation, to enforce their will on anyone who doesn't automatically kowtow to them, and for pain compliance of suspects or prisoners in custody. It seems like the perfect tool to hand out to untrained civilians likely to shoot anyone that makes them even slightly nervous. After all, it's "non-lethal".

At the party in Gilbert, the shooting goes on into the night as everyone takes a shot.

Lori Busken, 48, is the first in line. Busken, who is single, says she'd feel better carrying a Taser than a gun. She didn't buy a C2 right away, but she says she's planning to buy one soon.

"It's not heavy," she says after holding the weapon in her hand. "It's great they make them for civilian use. You don't want to kill somebody. You just want to be safe, you know?"


And don't worry, we'll just file all the deaths under "excited delirium" and pretend it was the victims' fault, though I'm guessing some of the people who buy into the "non-lethal" press releases will be somewhat more affected by the deaths they wind up causing than the RCMP showed in Vancouver.

The ultimate outsourcing

Some time ago, I read or heard somebody saying that child-rearing was now the ultimate outsourcing activity in the Western world. We have made the raising of children so expensive in the industrialized world that we cannot afford to have the large families that previous generations once did, and as a result, we now depend upon immigration to maintain any population growth. Effectively, we've outsources the cost of raising children to countries where the cost-of-living is far cheaper and are importing the finished product, (adults).

Well, forget child-rearing; we're now set to start major outsourcing in child-bearing.

Every night in this quiet western Indian city, 15 pregnant women prepare for sleep in the spacious house they share, ascending the stairs in a procession of ballooned bellies, to bedrooms that become a landscape of soft hills.

A team of maids, cooks and doctors looks after the women, whose pregnancies would be unusual anywhere else but are common here. The young mothers of Anand, a place famous for its milk, are pregnant with the children of infertile couples from around the world.

The small clinic at Kaival Hospital matches infertile couples with local women, cares for the women during pregnancy and delivery, and counsels them afterward. Anand's surrogate mothers, pioneers in the growing field of outsourced pregnancies, have given birth to roughly 40 babies.

More than 50 women in this city are now pregnant with the children of couples from the United States, Taiwan, Britain and beyond. The women earn more than many would make in 15 years. But the program raises a host of uncomfortable questions that touch on morals and modern science, exploitation and globalization, and that most natural of desires: to have a family.


The idea of surrogate motherhood isn't one that I've thought on very much, so I don't have any specific objections to the procedure in general. The biggest issue with this story is the fact that India has a rather alarmingly high maternal death rate, which ups the risk factor involved and makes the exploitation factor loom much larger. This isn't cost-of-living cheap, this is life being treated cheaply.

Despite that, I have a feeling this will turn into a booming industry. Via

Giuliani on Iowa

He flatlined in Iowa and he's struggling in New Hampshire, but Rudy Giuliani shook off the early-state blues Thursday as only he can.

"None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried," Giuliani said.


Wow! Giuliani mentioned 9/11! What a stunner!

That's really all his campaign has, isn't it?

Obama's Speech

Well, he certainly looks and sounds presidential.

Obama and Huckabee

Apparent winners of the Iowa caucuses. Edwards is apparently slightly ahead of Clinton on the Democratic side, which, given I think Hillary is a bad choice for the Democrats, suits me just fine.

The Republican side is far more interesting, even with Huckabee a clear winner over Romney. The real surprises for me are how well Ron Paul has placed and just how utterly pathetic Guiliani looks right now. From a national front-runner just a short time ago to finish sixth, well behind Paul, with only a paltry 4% of the vote. Stick a fork in the boy.